A Place for Firearms Enthusiasts
Welcome to Family, Friends and Firearms. We are a privately owned, not-for-profit discussion forum and while we are open to the public, the Staff reserves the right to deny or revoke any membership for any reason at any time without notice. All contributions (INCLUDING Private Messages between members) on this forum becomes the property of FamilyFriends&Firearms for archival and display purposes on the FamilyFriends&Firearms website venue. Said content may be removed or edited at staff discretion. The original authors retain all rights to their material outside of the FamilyFriends&Firearms website venue. Publication of any original material from FamilyFriends&Firearms on other websites or venues without permission from FamilyFriends&Firearms or the original author is expressly forbidden. External linking to images contained on this server is also expressly prohibited.
The opinions, views and comments expressed by the members of this forum and website are their own and do not necessarily state or reflect those of FamilyFriends&Firearms or any of it's Staff. FamilyFriends&Firearms does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of these messages and opinions, and does not perform an independent investigation to verify their truth or accuracy. All posted messages (INCLUDING Private Messages between members) are the sole responsibility of the person from which such post originated and are subject to edit, review and/or deletion at the sole discretion of the Staff at any time without notice. FamilyFriends&Firearms assumes no liability in any way for the content of any posted message or opinion, including, but not limited to, any errors or omissions in any posted message.
This board is for those “regular folks” who have a serious interest in firearms and the shooting sports. We’re a pretty laid back bunch, so feel free to pull up a crate and chat. We do have a few rules, in order to maintain the integrity of the board, and assure that each Member is treated with respect. These rules are:
- Stay civil. No profanity, personal attacks, or flames toward a person or group. (If you can't say it on network television, we don't want to see it on the boards).
- No discussion of illegal activities (like bombings, “getting” someone, etc).
- No spamming - Stay on-topic and maintain mature, constructive conversation.
- Use only ONE username. Use of multiple usernames will be considered spam.
- Trolling is forbidden and Trolls will be banned on sight.
- All messages you post will include your "user name." This may be your real name or a "handle" (nickname or pseudonym).
- If you choose to use a handle, it may not be the name of a living person or a name likely to be confused with that of a living person.
- If you register using a real name other than your own, or if the user name you choose contains offensive or misleading elements, your account will be canceled and you will be banned from future participation at this site.
- Messages posted to this board must be polite and free of personal attacks, threats, and crude or sexually-explicit language.
- Inappropriate or offensive graphics, user names, or profile entries are not permitted.
- Messages should be relatively short and to the point. Do not post lengthy replies (including replies that consist largely of quotes from an earlier message).
- Do not view the discussion area as a vehicle for single-mindedly promoting an agenda.
- Anti-Gunowners are welcome to participate but must be respectful of the beliefs & positions held by the pro-gunowners participating on the board since it it their board.
- Do not post others’ e-mail addresses or private e-mail sent by them unless they give you permission to do so.
- Do not post copyrighted material.
- Do not post material from unapproved private revelations.
- Do not post personal phone numbers and addresses.
- Do not post anything that can be construed as spam.
- Do not post anything that can be construed as a commercial advertisement or contains any form of commercial solicitation.
- Messages posted to threads should be on-topic. If you wish to discuss another topic, start a new thread.
- Do not pad your post count with chatty or off-topic messages.
- If you have something to say to an individual member that is not of general interest to the board, use the private messaging system.
- Inappropriate or harassing private messages are not permitted.
- Private messages ARE subject to edit & review by staff at any time without notice.
- Reports of infractions of these rules should be submitted to the moderators by private messaging.
- Material that violates the rules may be edited or deleted without prior notice.
- Moderator actions are not open to public debate. Judgments by the Moderators can be discussed with the Moderators via private messaging but not on the board itself.
- Users who persistently violate the rules will be banned.
The above rules are subject to change without notice. Violations of these rules will result in ONE warning. If that isn’t effective, the offender will be banned from the board. We reserve the right to ban immediately someone posting a flagrant flame or spam. The decision of the Staff is final. You may appeal for reinstatement. Such appeal will be discussed by Staff, and if merited, you may be reinstated. But only once.
Legal Stuff ... Please read & heed.
The use or posting of copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or you have prior consent is not allowed. Anyone doing so is subject to removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website for a length of time to be determined by the FamilyFriends&Firearms Administration.
The posting or displaying of sexually explicit, adult related content, pornography, or any illegal material or links to it will result in your removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website permanently on the first offense.
Purposely posting incorrect, misleading, or hazardous information will result in removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website permanently on the first offense.
The FamilyFriends&Firearms website is a Family Oriented site and the content of all post made on the FamilyFriends&Firearms site should be in a manner that reflects this. We will not tolerate profanity and any post that contains profanity is subject to deletion or edit by an Administrator or Moderator without notice. Continued use of such language may result in removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms site for a length of time decided by the Administration.
FamilyFriends&Firearms will not tolerate "Flame Wars" if you feel the need to constantly flame people then you are at the wrong web site and should leave now. Anyone violating this policy is subject to removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website for a length of time decided by the Administration.
Personal Attacks are considered unacceptable at FamilyFriends&Firearms and will result in removal from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website, the manner in which these are handled will be at the discretion of the Administration. In cases of continued disagreements in open forum by multiple parties equal action will be taken with all involved parties, no one member will be shown special consideration in such cases regardless of membership status.
Moderators at FamilyFriends&Firearms are volunteers and receive no monetary compensation for their time from FamilyFriends&Firearms. These are members who wish to contribute to the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site and therefore donate their time, please respect them and understand that they too are members here at FamilyFriends&Firearms and have opinions of their own and these opinions may not be that of FamilyFriends&Firearms or the Administration but as with any member deserves respect.
Administrators and Board Moderators at FamilyFriends&Firearms are the only ones who have the power to remove anyone from the FamilyFriends&Firearms website, All actions taken by an Administrator or Board Moderator is considered "Approved by FamilyFriends&Firearms", Administrators and Board Moderators act on behalf of FamilyFriends&Firearms and any action taken by an Administrators and Board Moderators is beyond contestation.
By posting content to the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site you are giving FamilyFriends&Firearms unlimited, unrestricted, royalty free use of your "Intellectual Property", FamilyFriends&Firearms is in no way obligated to reimburse any member for use of any copyrighted material posted on FamilyFriends&Firearms. FamilyFriends&Firearms retains the right to use the "Intellectual Property" posted on our site for any purpose it sees fit as long as credit is given to its copyright owner. FamilyFriends&Firearms retains these rights to all "Intellectual Property" posted on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site regardless of the copyright owners current membership status.
Member’s assumption of Liability. All FamilyFriends&Firearms members assume sole responsibility for their use of the information that is provided to them on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site. No claim is made to the accuracy or completeness of any of the information located on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site and therefore should be considered opinion and not fact.
FamilyFriends&Firearms Classifieds are provided free for the FamilyFriends&Firearms members. Any member may post items for sale on the various classifieds forums provided the item conforms to the rules of the forum it is being posted to and provided the member is not acting on behalf of ANY company or business. Those wishing to use the FamilyFriends&Firearms classifieds as a source of retail or wholesale sales may do so but only after paying the yearly fee associated with that advertising plan.
Classifieds Posting Rules, if you have an item on any internet auction DO NOT post it on the FamilyFriends&Firearms forums until the auction ends and the item does not sell. Also each of the Classifieds forums have a set of rules posted in them that will be the current policy for that forum and must be followed. If an item posted to FamilyFriends&Firearms Classifieds is moved to an auction site please so note by editing the subject. It will be removed from FamilyFriends&Firearms.
FamilyFriends&Firearms Photo Album, Currently all registered members are allowed access to the FamilyFriends&Firearms Photo Album and may post images to it to be used on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site or any other website on the internet. FamilyFriends&Firearms does not block remote linking of the images in the photo gallery but reserves the right to do so in the future at any time without prior notice. By posting an image to the FamilyFriends&Firearms server or by linking it in a post located on the FamilyFriends&Firearms server you are giving FamilyFriends&Firearms unlimited and unrestricted access and rights to use and display the image in any manner seen fit by the Administration. You retain sole copyright to the image but FamilyFriends&Firearms has royalty free use of the image indefinitely if posted on the FamilyFriends&Firearms website and for the period the link remains active on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site for those located off site.
Membership termination, FamilyFriends&Firearms reserves the right to terminate anyone's membership for any reason without any explanation; though this may not be the practice of the FamilyFriends&Firearms administrators they do have this right.
Not a Public access site, FamilyFriends&Firearms is not a public access site and is not governed by any laws other than those set forth by the Federal Government. FamilyFriends&Firearms does not recognize anyone's given right to use or access the information contained on the FamilyFriends&Firearms site, contrary to such all information located on the FamilyFriends&Firearms servers is considered to be copyrighted "Intellectual Property" and therefore its use and access are subject to the author's permission. All FamilyFriends&Firearms members agree to give the FamilyFriends&Firearms administration sole discretion as to who can and can not view their material while it is located on the FamilyFriends&Firearms servers. FamilyFriends&Firearms retains the right to refuse access without notice or explanation and for any length of time to include indefinitely.
Posting Links on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site is free to all, though the FamilyFriends&Firearms administration reviews all links posted to our links database. No links pertaining to adult or sexually related sites are allowed. Only links that are related to topics discussed on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site or that fall into the predefined categories will be allowed.
Spam, FamilyFriends&Firearms has a NO SPAM policy; we will not tolerate spamming in any form, PM's Email, or open forum. Break this rule and your account will be banned indefinitely.
Trolls, FamilyFriends&Firearms will not tolerate "TROLLS" anyone suspected of being a troll on the forums will be dealt with promptly.
Member Protection, FamilyFriends&Firearms wants to protect our members from any harm of any sort while at FamilyFriends&Firearms therefore in order to insure honesty and truthfulness in transactions conducted using the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site FamilyFriends&Firearms reserves the right to release any members known personal information to include, Name, Address, Phone Number, Date of Birth, Aliases, IP Addresses, ISP, Activity history, email transcripts, pm transcripts, open forum posts or any other information that FamilyFriends&Firearms might have relating to the member to any law enforcement agency or federal, state or local agency if fraud is reported and proof can be provided. FamilyFriends&Firearms will attempt to contact the member accused, and allow them to provide any proof that they might have to the contrary. If the member fails to respond FamilyFriends&Firearms reserves the right to turn over said members information to the above mentioned agencies or FamilyFriends&Firearms may elect to assist the accusing member in seeking legal actions or restitutions against the accused member in which case the accused members information would be turned over to the accusing member and/or their legal counsel.
Firearms Sales, FamilyFriends&Firearms is in no way responsible for the sale of firearms on its web site, any member offering for sale a firearm must follow all Federal, State and Local laws that govern the state in which the sale is being made from and to. Any member buying a firearm posted for sale on the FamilyFriends&Firearmsweb site must follow all Federal, State and Local laws that govern the state in which they intend to have the gun delivered. FamilyFriends&Firearms is not a "middle man" and no one representing FamilyFriends&Firearms has any part in the sale of or the collection of the money for any item located for sale on the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site nor do we have any dealings in the shipping of the items.
Equality among members, at FamilyFriends&Firearms we feel that all members are equal, and each and every one of you contribute in your own way to make FamilyFriends&Firearms what it is. We also understand that each of our members have their own ideas, beliefs and opinions, and we respect that. We ask that every member of FamilyFriends&Firearms always remember that we are all unique and we all have our own ideas, beliefs, and opinions and respect those of your fellow members as much as you would have them respect yours. Now if that is none and you feel as though you need not respect the opinions of your fellow members, I expect you will not be staying around here for very long.
Private Message System, The FamilyFriends&Firearms private message system is in place for our members to have a way to contact each other and have discussions that should not be posted into the open forums. FamilyFriends&Firearms Administrators will from time to time prune the PM system to clean up the database. When this is done older pm's in your inbox may be deleted. If you wish to save a pm you should move it to your saved box. FamilyFriends&Firearms is not responsible for any information lost in this processes nor can we retrieve it once it is gone. When FamilyFriends&Firearms prunes, we prunes ALL messages by age. Saved ones too. Put it on your computer if you can't afford to lose it.
FamilyFriends&Firearms Email System, FamilyFriends&Firearms does not give out members email addresses, rather we have an email system in place to allow members to send other members email without giving the sender the email address. Any member who abuses the email system or the pm system will be removed from the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site indefinitely. ALL MEMBERS must have a VALID EMAIL address on file with FamilyFriends&Firearms in order for the FamilyFriends&Firearms Administration to contact them if the need should present itself. Failure to have a valid email address is grounds for account termination. FamilyFriends&Firearms does not send Mass email to our members unless a change has been made to FamilyFriends&Firearms that members should be made aware of.
FamilyFriends&Firearms Mailing Lists, FamilyFriends&Firearms does not at current maintain any mailing lists nor do we intend to in the near future. FamilyFriends&Firearms may elect to do so at any point and any member wishing to be "included" not "excluded" will need to contact FamilyFriends&Firearms at the time such mailing lists come available. FamilyFriends&Firearms will not send "junk email or spam" nor will we allow any third party access to our members information intentionally except as stated in this agreement. .
FamilyFriends&Firearms Post Notification System, FamilyFriends&Firearms has a system in place to notify members of new posts and/or PM' s if a member elects to use this system and said member is found to have an invalid email address listed on their account on the FamilyFriends&Firearms servers said members account may be deactivated and or suspended and the members right to use the notification system may be revoked at the discretion of the FamilyFriends&Firearms Administration.
Avatars, FamilyFriends&Firearms allows it members to use "avatars", these are small images the member chooses to represent them and their user account. These images must follow the terms as outlined here, NO adult related images or Sexually explicit images will be allowed, nor will images that are intended to offend or incite other members be allowed. Anyone not adhering to these rules is subject to having their account deactivated or removed from the FamilyFriends&Firearms servers.
Members Acceptance, any member at FamilyFriends&Firearms registered or otherwise is required to follow all rules and guidelines set forth in this document, failure to do so will result in the member's removal and access to the FamilyFriends&Firearms site to be denied to the member. FamilyFriends&Firearms in good faith trusts all of our members to read and understand the terms as outlined in this agreement. Any member who accesses the FamilyFriends&Firearms web site on or after 11-6-2000 agrees to be bound by the terms of this agreement and enters in to a contractual obligation with FamilyFriends&Firearms to conduct themselves in a manner set forth herein for the length of said members visit and each subsequent visit there after.
Information Collection, FamilyFriends&Firearms will collect information about its members for the sole purpose of improving the members browsing experience, FamilyFriends&Firearms will not collect any information without your knowledge, FamilyFriends&Firearms DOES NOT use ad ware or spy ware nor do we use Pop-Up Ads. You are here by notified that FamilyFriends&Firearms collects information about: your ISP, Computer Operating System, Display Resolution, Browser and Version and other demographics related information, never will we collect private/personal information without your consent. FamilyFriends&Firearms stores all personal information on a secure server and therefore abides by all laws regarding your personal information as set forth by the federal laws which govern it also. FamilyFriends&Firearms will NEVER sell or release any members information except where stated otherwise in this document.
Contests and Drawings, FamilyFriends&Firearms will from time to time hold contests for our members, in such case the contests rules and guidelines will be posted for the members to review, anyone entering into a FamilyFriends&Firearms contest must provide FamilyFriends&Firearms with all information requested. This information will be of a private nature and can include Real Name, address, phone number and other personal information. FamilyFriends&Firearms urges anyone providing us this information to do so OFFLINE or through email, NEVER post your private information in open forum. Winners of the contests will be chosen according to the rules of each contest.
Content Availability, FamilyFriends&Firearms makes no guarantee neither written nor implied as to the accessibility of the content located on the FamilyFriends&Firearms servers due to the basic nature of the internet and the possibility for problems that might prevent members from accessing the information at FamilyFriends&Firearms. FamilyFriends&Firearms also reserves the right to remove any content that it sees fit for any reason without notice. FamilyFriends&Firearms makes no guarantee to its members that their "Intellectual Property" will remain on the FamilyFriends&Firearms server for any set amount of time unless otherwise stated in writing by an administrator.
This site is governed and protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act - §18 of United States Code ¶2510-2521.