new show "DOOMSDAY PREPPERS" ON Natl. Geo.


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festus
01-31-2012, 10:58 AM
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/

must see tv!

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HK4U
01-31-2012, 11:18 AM
I plan on watching.

bluedlightning
01-31-2012, 04:31 PM
If you want to prepare for doomsday do what I did and get right with God. All the rest are screwed.

HK4U
01-31-2012, 04:42 PM
I am right with God however before Christ returns there may be some real bad times ahead. Not necessarily the end of the world but perhaps the end of the world as we know it. As my sig line says:
By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; Hebrews 11:7 (A)

old trucker
01-31-2012, 05:45 PM
If nothing else,it shows a lot of good ideas and can show how a lot of us are still way behind these people in prepping.
I really like the 62' Ford pickup.

festus
01-31-2012, 05:53 PM
I too am right with God. Jesus is the only reason that I am alive today and I have a wonderful family and home to boot.

Christ commanded (paraphrased in many translations)

New International Version (http://niv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©1984) (http://biblica.com/)
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.New Living Translation (http://nlt.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2007) (http://www.newlivingtranslation.com/)
"But now," he said, "take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one!
English Standard Version (http://esv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2001) (http://www.crossway.org/)
He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
New American Standard Bible (http://nasb.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©1995) (http://www.lockman.org/)
And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) (http://kingjbible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
International Standard Version (http://isv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2008) (http://isv.org/)
Then he said to them, "But now whoever has a wallet must take it along, and his traveling bag, too. And the one who has no sword must sell his coat and buy one.
World English Bible (http://worldebible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then he said to them, "But now, whoever has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet. Whoever has none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword.
Young's Literal Translation (http://yltbible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then said he to them, 'But, now, he who is having a bag, let him take it up, and in like manner also a scrip; and he who is not having, let him sell his garment, and buy a sword,


The bottom line is that having a bag, a weapon and a little cash for supplies is not a bad thing.
Many people like the Mormons believe that you should have 2 years worth of supplies on hand.
I firmly believe that you should have what you can afford without going overboard and be prepared for hard times.
HK4U is right about hard times ahead.
If you ask 300 Christians about the end times and tribulation, you will get 300 different interpretations.
Some say they will be gone before. Some say during and some say after. When it is all said and done, we are to be prepared. (as near as I can figure)
As for those that do not have faith, prepping for the worst happens there too. Many folks know that something is coming. Most do not know what but can sense the trouble brewing on the horizon.

Look at it this way...If you are logistically ready for economic collapse, pandemic, civil unrest, or hordes of the undead...you have a lot of the bases covered.

Religion is a personal choice that only you can make.

I hope more like minded liberty loving folks will start putting a few extra things aside each payday.

Hosana
01-31-2012, 07:34 PM
Good find festus..can't wait to get some time to get into it.

boris007
01-31-2012, 07:53 PM
I too am right with God. Jesus is the only reason that I am alive today and I have a wonderful family and home to boot.

Christ commanded (paraphrased in many translations)

New International Version (http://niv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©1984) (http://biblica.com/)
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.New Living Translation (http://nlt.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2007) (http://www.newlivingtranslation.com/)
"But now," he said, "take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one!
English Standard Version (http://esv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2001) (http://www.crossway.org/)
He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
New American Standard Bible (http://nasb.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©1995) (http://www.lockman.org/)
And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) (http://kingjbible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
International Standard Version (http://isv.scripturetext.com/luke/22.htm) (©2008) (http://isv.org/)
Then he said to them, "But now whoever has a wallet must take it along, and his traveling bag, too. And the one who has no sword must sell his coat and buy one.
World English Bible (http://worldebible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then he said to them, "But now, whoever has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet. Whoever has none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword.
Young's Literal Translation (http://yltbible.com/luke/22.htm)
Then said he to them, 'But, now, he who is having a bag, let him take it up, and in like manner also a scrip; and he who is not having, let him sell his garment, and buy a sword,


The bottom line is that having a bag, a weapon and a little cash for supplies is not a bad thing.
Many people like the Mormons believe that you should have 2 years worth of supplies on hand.
I firmly believe that you should have what you can afford without going overboard and be prepared for hard times.
HK4U is right about hard times ahead.
If you ask 300 Christians about the end times and tribulation, you will get 300 different interpretations.
Some say they will be gone before. Some say during and some say after. When it is all said and done, we are to be prepared. (as near as I can figure)
As for those that do not have faith, prepping for the worst happens there too. Many folks know that something is coming. Most do not know what but can sense the trouble brewing on the horizon.

Look at it this way...If you are logistically ready for economic collapse, pandemic, civil unrest, or hordes of the undead...you have a lot of the bases covered.

Religion is a personal choice that only you can make.

I hope more like minded liberty loving folks will start putting a few extra things aside each payday.

ROGER THAT!!!

Tea For One
02-03-2012, 07:43 AM
Agree 100% with Festus and HK4U. I am likewise a Christian, but in spite of that, I am nobody's fool, and I am a realist about some of the difficulties we Christians may encounter in the coming days, months and years, and I want to be as prepared as possible.

TFO

KathleenElsie
02-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Seems that it portrays us like insane, crazy and hillbillies. We prep but our life style does not shout out that we are someplace that you can steal from. Advertising is not a smart way to stay safe.

festus
02-03-2012, 04:56 PM
KE has a point!

We prep but we don't advertize either.

Most of our prepping is full stealth, under the radar, slow build up and well stowed so as not to grab attention.

BUT...wait for it...we may get some good ideas about things we have not thought about or things we have not thought fully through, I hope to learn from the expensive mistakes of others and not make the same mistakes myself.

LIVE SMARTER NOT HARDER

HK4U
02-03-2012, 05:21 PM
I will reserve judgement until I see it.

KathleenElsie
02-03-2012, 07:52 PM
KE has a point!

We prep but we don't advertize either.

Most of our prepping is full stealth, under the radar, slow build up and well stowed so as not to grab attention.

BUT...wait for it...we may get some good ideas about things we have not thought about or things we have not thought fully through, I hope to learn from the expensive mistakes of others and not make the same mistakes myself.

LIVE SMARTER NOT HARDER:up::up:

boris007
02-07-2012, 03:51 PM
i gotta admit i like the one guy with the school bus and his team{?} that might be a wee bit extreme for me as a guy with limited {!!!} resources, but still some real good ideas. if it will get you to think and give some good ideas to consider, that's good.

Stevejet
02-07-2012, 11:52 PM
I watched for the first time tonight and after watching Ma & Pa Kettle (who, in Ma's own words "spend 50 hours per week collecting and stashing food") perform .22 LR lead boolit penetration tests" on the 3/8" galvanized-steel siding of their "Ft. Apache" dwelling, I switched to the Military Channel to watch the Japanese lose their four aircraft carriers at Midway....again, for the 137th time. They'll never learn!

And a word of advise for the Kettle's in Floresville, TX., MORE STEEL.....lots more!

Boz61
02-08-2012, 08:53 AM
Dangit..we don't get NatGeo on Kabul Cable. Guess I'll have to stay tuned to this forum and then check it out when it makes it to DVD.

Dwayne
02-08-2012, 09:23 AM
Seems that it portrays us like insane, crazy and hillbillies. We prep but our life style does not shout out that we are someplace that you can steal from. Advertising is not a smart way to stay safe.

This is what I figured the TV show will portray us as. The more we advertise, the more people know who and where we are. . .which is not good for anyone except the government.

Dwayne
02-08-2012, 09:28 AM
Dangit..we don't get NatGeo on Kabul Cable. Guess I'll have to stay tuned to this forum and then check it out when it makes it to DVD.

Here you go!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=doomsday+preppers&oq=doomsday+preppers&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1075l4438l0l4615l19l17l1l6l7l0l253l1375l2.6.2l10l0

Boz61
02-08-2012, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=Dwayne;1217550]Here you go!

Dwayne,
In the land of the sand;
Access Denied (policy_denied) Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL

THANKS for the link anyway!

ExSniper
02-08-2012, 10:13 PM
Did not see the show. Heard a review or two and talked to some serious preppers who were quite disappointed.

Each of us needs to examine our lives and do what WE can do to prepare for emergencies and disasters.

Dwayne
02-09-2012, 08:42 AM
Last night, I watched a Doomsday Prepper show that I got off of YouTube.

It went through about 4 different families. One of the families actually was using a wood gassifier to run his old truck, with the idea that gas and fuel would disappear at the moment of strife.

Each of them had food storage. Each of them had some kind of water storage. One had a underground whistle that was 10 feet in diameter, that the "experts" claimed it could with stand a nuclear explosion 1/2 mile away.

I find it odd, that the "experts" did not point out, that this guys fall-out shelter is a hour and a half away from his home in the mountains. . . If nuclear strike happens, he is cooked long before he arrives at his shelter. If the blast, fire, or whatever else doesn't get him before he gets there, the radiation will definitely get him.

I also find it interesting that their "Experts" said every one of these people should share their ideas with their neighbors, and get them involved. I totally disagree.

1. Neighbors talk.
2. In time of catastrophe, the only people you can trust is yourself and God.

I also find it interesting that all of these people "practice" their stuff on a daily basis. Which is good. But it seems all of them are trying to live off the land in their own little "section". Which means if they are forced in any way to move away, they will be nothing but lost puppies in the wilderness.

They have all their "requirements" like water and food stored in their houses or land, but I question their ability to *live* off the land in time of strife. Without their "Bottled Water", they have no way to get clean water except to boil it. . .which attracts attention.

Without their "Fish in the pond to eat", they spend all their time worrying about their pond stocked with easy to catch fish, yet maybe they should try real fishing.

In other words, like a threat I posted earlier. . .these people are actually living in luxury, and under pre-determined situations. What happens when they step out of their "comfort" zone? Only they would know.

My other problem is. . .survivalists need to step out of their comfort zone. It is easy to build a comfort zone around you, and claim to be a prepper. This is not a real SHTF scenario. Step out of that comfort zone and see what happens. A whole new different outlook is seen. Luxuries are no longer available, ease of water and food is no longer available, and the comfort of a water tight house with electricity is no longer a part of the equation.

Popeye
02-09-2012, 04:34 PM
Its a TV show folks. It is designed to sell advertising, to gain ratings points and to entertain its targeted audience. In that order. Facts, critical thinking and viability are far down on the list.

budroe
02-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Maybe not even on the list.

Stevejet
02-09-2012, 08:33 PM
Blasphemer's!

Boz61
02-10-2012, 03:51 AM
Based on what I've read on this thread and on the NatGeo webste seems more like Un-Reality TV.

Dwayne
02-10-2012, 08:52 AM
Based on what I've read on this thread and on the NatGeo webste seems more like Un-Reality TV.

Yeah. . .It kinda fits that arena.

Yes, they live off the land by themselves,
they raise their own food for a couple of them.
They make their own Gas (one of them).
One has his own electricity generator.

You can store only so much water. . .and some of these folks have thousands upon thousands of bottles of water stored. They are going to have to "recycle" this water, because it also gets old and grows bacteria in it too. (Don't think it doesn't) Even the tap water out of your faucet can have protozoans that can and will kill you. Though very unlikely, People have died from it.

It was interesting (This was the first time I watched it, it was the first time I have heard about it also) the different ways people prepared. It was also interesting that all that preparation was for making things "Luxurious". Yet if they are forced to go elsewhere, they probably couldn't survive for more than a few weeks or until their supplies ran out.

The "army" guys would probably survive the longest. The others would be wondering how to make a lean to, catch some food, cook it, and start a fire.

For me, survival is not Luxury or in style. It is working with WHAT you have available to the best of your ability. That doesn't mean:

having a pond on your land to catch fish.
having bottled water stashed away.
having stored matches.
having a pre-made modernized lean-to/home to live under.
and other things. . .

It means to make fire the most primitive way you can muster up, with success.
It means ability to use your surrounding area to find water, food, make a lean-to, and make yourself comfortable with your surrounding materials.

This insures that a person *can* use their imagation and skills to accomplish what is supposed to be accomplished without the modernization of man.

This all can be practiced with simple and fun campting trips! Let it be a challenge, and bring along those things that make camping luxurious, just in case you can't light a fire, catch any fish, build a lean-to, or whatever.

Most life and death survival people have one thing in common. . . all those "luxuries" that they had were not available when their SHTF scenario happened.

Boz61
02-10-2012, 11:49 AM
Dwayne, thanks for the data dump.

I'm going back a few years on this, so I might have a few backwards
Summarize the situation
Undue haste makes waste
Remember where you are
Vanquish fear
Improvise
V (Brain Fart)
Act like the natives
Live off the land
circ. SFQC 1987

I like to think I'm prepared to either hold-up or bug out. The situation will naturally dictate which method one has to execute.
We also have a "Meet" and circle the wagons so to say, if the situation dictates.

I certainly wouldn't want to go on national TV and give my plans away;-) Guess the money talks...and BS walks.

Dwayne
02-10-2012, 12:37 PM
My favorite actually comes from a movie "Heartbreak Ridge". though I do not like the cussing and stuff in it, the overall story is fabulous.

I am also not sure if Clint Eastwood realized it, but he made a perfect acronym. .

A-Adapt
I-Improvise
O-Overcome

Which IMO are extremely short and to the point.

Each new situation, no matter what it is, you must AIO. These so-called doomsday people have AIO only for their situation at hand. It has taken them years to do so.

When SHTF happens, you do not have years, you have seconds. You are now out of your "comfort" zone, and all that preparing you did will no longer be an issue. . .it will be gone.

The guy with the truck and gasification setup. . .what happens if his truck throws a rod? Oil pump goes out? or whatever? Truck is gone.

HK4U
02-10-2012, 01:52 PM
If the show gets some that are not doing anything to at least start thinking about preps then it will be worth it. As I have said before I did not see any earth shaking ideas that I did not already know. I will check it out next time to see if there is any worth while info. The one family that really cracked me up was the one that said they did not need any guns because all their neighbors in the area were good people. How naive can you get?

Dwayne
02-10-2012, 02:12 PM
If the show gets some that are not doing anything to at least start thinking about preps then it will be worth it. As I have said before I did not see any earth shaking ideas that I did not already know. I will check it out next time to see if there is any worth while info. The one family that really cracked me up was the one that said they did not need any guns because all their neighbors in the area were good people. How naive can you get?

That is like saying guns and knives were not necessary in the 1700's and 1800's when we traveled west across the country. . .

LadyFaire
02-10-2012, 03:29 PM
Come on folks - take the preaching to the attic, and get back to the subject at hand, please?

Dwayne
02-10-2012, 03:45 PM
Come on folks - take the preaching to the attic, and get back to the subject at hand, please?

We got kicked out of the attic. . . So they sent us down here to harass everyone else. . .

HK4U
02-10-2012, 03:47 PM
So who was preaching. Did I miss something?

LadyFaire
02-11-2012, 09:17 AM
When I posted that message, I hadn't even waded through the first page of this discussion. It was beginning to sound like a southern Revival.

LadyFaire
02-11-2012, 09:20 AM
Dangit..we don't get NatGeo on Kabul Cable. Guess I'll have to stay tuned to this forum and then check it out when it makes it to DVD.

You can probably download the episodes, or watch them online. Look around and see what you can see. Oooh, sorry! Bad pun.

Boz61
02-11-2012, 09:40 AM
You can probably download the episodes, or watch them online. Look around and see what you can see. Oooh, sorry! Bad pun.

The networks here are so restricted due to bandwidth and of course, we don't want to offend our host nation. Most streaming video and media sharing sites are blocked. Heck, I can't even see the pics posted in the threads.
I am getting plenty of feedback from the forum though...

What I can see...is snow lately:-(

HK4U
02-11-2012, 11:19 AM
When I posted that message, I hadn't even waded through the first page of this discussion. It was beginning to sound like a southern Revival.

Here is a portion of a message I sent to another via private message.

We all have differant reasons for preping and differant things we prep for. I like to hear the reasoning behind each persons decission. As a Christian I may have a differant take on it than someone that is not. By looking at each of our thoughts it helps us to have a better sense of what we are all thinking.

Hosana
02-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Dwayne, thanks for the data dump.

I'm going back a few years on this, so I might have a few backwards
Summarize the situation
Undue haste makes waste
Remember where you are
Vanquish fear
Improvise
V (Brain Fart)
Act like the natives
Live off the land
circ. SFQC 1987

I like to think I'm prepared to either hold-up or bug out. The situation will naturally dictate which method one has to execute.
We also have a "Meet" and circle the wagons so to say, if the situation dictates.

I certainly wouldn't want to go on national TV and give my plans away;-) Guess the money talks...and BS walks.

You did alot better then I would have Boz.

S. Size up the situation.
U. Use all your senses.
R. Remember where you are.
V. Vanquish fear and panic.
I. Improvise.
V. Value living.
A. Act like the natives.
L. Live by your wits.

Taken off my Esee survival card.

Boz61
02-11-2012, 07:57 PM
You did alot better then I would have Boz.

S. Size up the situation.
U. Use all your senses.
R. Remember where you are.
V. Vanquish fear and panic.
I. Improvise.
V. Value living.
A. Act like the natives.
L. Live by your wits.

Taken off my Esee survival card.

I'll give myself a "Not too bad" for pulling that out of my 4th point of contact!
From FM 3-5-70 Survival;

S—Size Up the Situation
U—Use All Your Senses, Undue Haste Makes Waste
R—Remember Where You Are
V—Vanquish Fear and Panic
I—Improvise
V—Value Living
A—Act Like the Natives
L—Live by Your Wits, But for Now, Learn Basic Skills

Which one do you feel is most important? I'd go with Vanqish fear and panic. Staying calm in any difficult situation is the key IMHO, then size up the situation and follow as necessary.

festus
02-11-2012, 08:27 PM
cant we all just get along?

ladyfaire...your particular belief system has tons and tons to do with mother nature. As far as medicinal herbs and edible greenery goes, that is a lot to bring to the table.

If I offended with the scripture about buying a sword, I apologize. I was trying to make a point that even 2000 years ago it was seen to be a good thing to be prepared.

Hosana
02-11-2012, 08:39 PM
I'll give myself a "Not too bad" for pulling that out of my 4th point of contact!
From FM 3-5-70 Survival;

S—Size Up the Situation
U—Use All Your Senses, Undue Haste Makes Waste
R—Remember Where You Are
V—Vanquish Fear and Panic
I—Improvise
V—Value Living
A—Act Like the Natives
L—Live by Your Wits, But for Now, Learn Basic Skills

Which one do you feel is most important? I'd go with Vanqish fear and panic. Staying calm in any difficult situation is the key IMHO, then size up the situation and follow as necessary.


Yep, I'm with you on the fear and panic....it will paralyze you....

Hosana
02-11-2012, 09:46 PM
Last night, I watched a Doomsday Prepper show that I got off of YouTube.

It went through about 4 different families. One of the families actually was using a wood gassifier to run his old truck, with the idea that gas and fuel would disappear at the moment of strife.

Each of them had food storage. Each of them had some kind of water storage. One had a underground whistle that was 10 feet in diameter, that the "experts" claimed it could with stand a nuclear explosion 1/2 mile away.

I find it odd, that the "experts" did not point out, that this guys fall-out shelter is a hour and a half away from his home in the mountains. . . If nuclear strike happens, he is cooked long before he arrives at his shelter. If the blast, fire, or whatever else doesn't get him before he gets there, the radiation will definitely get him.

I also find it interesting that their "Experts" said every one of these people should share their ideas with their neighbors, and get them involved. I totally disagree.

1. Neighbors talk.
2. In time of catastrophe, the only people you can trust is yourself and God.

I also find it interesting that all of these people "practice" their stuff on a daily basis. Which is good. But it seems all of them are trying to live off the land in their own little "section". Which means if they are forced in any way to move away, they will be nothing but lost puppies in the wilderness.

They have all their "requirements" like water and food stored in their houses or land, but I question their ability to *live* off the land in time of strife. Without their "Bottled Water", they have no way to get clean water except to boil it. . .which attracts attention.

Without their "Fish in the pond to eat", they spend all their time worrying about their pond stocked with easy to catch fish, yet maybe they should try real fishing.

In other words, like a threat I posted earlier. . .these people are actually living in luxury, and under pre-determined situations. What happens when they step out of their "comfort" zone? Only they would know.

My other problem is. . .survivalists need to step out of their comfort zone. It is easy to build a comfort zone around you, and claim to be a prepper. This is not a real SHTF scenario. Step out of that comfort zone and see what happens. A whole new different outlook is seen. Luxuries are no longer available, ease of water and food is no longer available, and the comfort of a water tight house with electricity is no longer a part of the equation.

I like your posts Dwayne...you deal with realism and not fantasy. Thanks!

KathleenElsie
02-11-2012, 10:08 PM
Watched the show just now. Sorry but these people are worrying about the wrong things. They will bring so much attention to themselves that everyone will target them.

HK4U
02-11-2012, 10:13 PM
Watched the show just now. Sorry but these people are worrying about the wrong things. They will bring so much attention to themselves that everyone will target them.

I agree going on t.v. for all the world to see is not a good idea.

old trucker
02-12-2012, 11:51 AM
Dwayne,that wood gasifire looks like it would be almost as fun as flying.
Were do you think a guy could get the plans for that.
I've got the perfect 67' Ford pickup with a 300 six and a three on the tree.
I really would like to do this.

Dwayne
02-12-2012, 01:23 PM
Dwayne,that wood gasifire looks like it would be almost as fun as flying.
Were do you think a guy could get the plans for that.
I've got the perfect 67' Ford pickup with a 300 six and a three on the tree.
I really would like to do this.

My friend and I have some plans for gasification, I will try to search for them. They also sell gasifiers over the internet.

My friend that owns KansasWind, is an alternative energy resource person. He fixes wind generators and works with off the grid setups. A while back, we were experimenting with Gasification and heaters. . . Built a upside down burning gasification heater. With a barrel of approx 22 gallons volume wise, we were able to burn 9+ hours of superb heat. Unbelievable. 22 gallons will last only a hour to 2 hours max in a regular wood burning stove, and most of that heat would be wasted right out of the chimney.

We (for the fun of it) went outside and fire it up, took off the top lid of the burner, and within seconds we had a 9 foot flame barreling out of the top fo the stove. It was simply amazing. . .Heat galore. . . out of just one load of firewood.

If I remember right, Mother Earth Magazine has some stuff on this. . .

old trucker
02-12-2012, 04:19 PM
I've got a heck of an erg to do this.
Maybe I can get Hosana to front the funds.:)

Hosana
02-12-2012, 04:54 PM
I've got a heck of an erg to do this.
Maybe I can get Hosana to front the funds.:)

What!!!!! your out wine and dining two ladies and you want me to front you some denaro?!?!!How much.......?

old trucker
02-12-2012, 05:44 PM
What!!!!! your out wine and dining two ladies and you want me to front you some denaro?!?!!How much.......?
I don't know?
Will have to ask Dwayne.

Dwayne
02-15-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hosana http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/fffmain/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1218748#post1218748)
What!!!!! your out wine and dining two ladies and you want me to front you some denaro?!?!!How much.......?


I don't know?
Will have to ask Dwayne.

Just got through talking to my friend. The biggest part is the welding. With the welding out of the way, it can be done pretty cheaply.

But tell Hosana that it will cost about 3000 dollars, is well worth it, and could save your life sometime. I will split the extra 2800 dollars with you, you can take your 1400 dollars and buy that gun you always wanted, and I will buy my gun that I have always wanted. . . <very big smile!> Just make sure you don't tell her the real truth, and it will be our little secret. (Dwayne looking over his gun-porn magazine for a future play toy. . . .)

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