[guy sajer]

Winchester M1918 . She's a sweetheart :)

A can still see Steve McQueen in "The Sand Pebbles" taking out the commies .

[bigremfan]

Winchester M1918 . She's a sweetheart :)

A can still see Steve McQueen in "The Sand Pebbles" taking out the commies .
Bonnie Parker liked it a lot. I think Clyde Barrow did too. :psycho:

[TonyMig]

isn't the B.A.R. one of the guns used to kill Bonnie & Clyde.....?

I've had the pleasure of shooting a full auto Thompson on two occassions now, and hope to shoot one again next year. If given the choice between the Tommy Gun, or the B.A.R., I'd opt for the B.A.R.

That looks pretty clean for a 1918, enjoy shooting it....

[budroe]

If you get the chance to shoot a BAR, you'll probably want to shoot it more.... and more!!!

[bigremfan]

isn't the B.A.R. one of the guns used to kill Bonnie & Clyde.....?

It may have been, but it was also B.P.'s favorite weapon.

[Popeye]

I like the B.A.R.

[Rabbi]

A guy let me shoot a BAR last summer (a modern reproduction) fulfilling a dream I've held for over forty years. I was in LOVE. A MAN'S gun and all that I had dreamed of. It don't get much better.

As if we didn't have enough to admire JMB for, right?

[guy sajer]

...As if we didn't have enough to admire JMB for, right?
He is the Man ! :up:

A good friend now in his 80's was a Marine company commander in WWII and Korea . He said the 3 or more BAR's they had per platoon gave them a hell of an edge in combat .
... He says he'll never forget the Chinese bugles . :(

[John Henry]

The 1918 is/was one he11 of a tool .... as long as you didn't have to carry it for any great distance. That bad boy gets heavy in a hurry.

[rotty]

I was with rabbi, and got to shoot that same BAR, made by Ohio Ordinance....man what an experiance....cant imagine having to lug one around for any amount of time though.

[guy sajer]

30-06 @ 550-600 rpm will broaden your smile 10x over . :D


I carried mine in a "jungle walk" match one time . Outside temp was 90 degrees and high humidity . The whole match took about 45 minutes . Carrying it at the ready and firing it worked on my left arm big time .

[Jim V]

While I like the B.A.R., I find the reach to the trigger causes my hand to ache. Now, the gun's younger brother, the FN-D is a real winner. Pistol grip, quick change barrels, convertable to various calibers with a change of the fire control unit. In 7.62 X 51, it uses FAL magazines.

But if somebody were to hand me a B.A.R. and a case of loaded magazines and say, "Empty them" I would not say no.

[guy sajer]

Always with them negative waves Jim ... :D

I had a trigger assembly for a "D" , but was offered too much money for it and sold it . It will fit the BAR .

I'm about average height at 6'1" . I never noticed the trigger reach . Now it's going to always be in the back of my mind :down: ;)

[Jim V]

One thing is for sure, JMB's designs worked and work better than a lot of the guns that were to replace them. The Ma Deuce is still doing wht it was designed to do most 80 years ago. The 1911 still is protecting lives closing in on 100 years. I'm sure that if one looks hard enough and most likely not that hard at all he could find a few 1919A4's in somebody's supply line. Not many "Diggers" or 1917 watercooled guns but the "Digger" was still used for ship defense during WWII (on commercial ships that were pressed into military duty.)

And my achey hands may just be a touch of the "rumatiz". I did spend a nice afternoon with a B.A.R. and a couple - three .50 cans containing loaded magazines, back when surplus .30-'06 wasn't priced out of sight. It was a Rockwell made gun.

And if I remember what I read correctly, I don't think Frank Hammer and the rest of the posse had a BAR, they did have a number of Remington semi-automatic rifles though. I'll have to check to make sure.

Back to the "Sand Pebbles", did you know there were two endings of the move made? The one we got and one where things turned out much better. The cast all liked the second ending better but the director and producer got the winning votes.

[TxShooter]

Jim, from what I recall of the posse, most of the members were armed with a mix of Remington Model 8 rifles, Model 11 semiauto shotguns, and Winchester 94 leveractions. Capt. Hamer had a Model 8 with a replacement 20 shot magazine, I believe in .35 Remington. He loaned another M8 to former Ranger B.M. "Manny" Gault. Capt. Hamer's Colt Monitor resides in the Ranger museum, but he didn't have it during the manhunt. One of the Dallas County deputies, I believe Ted Hinton, had a BAR that was aquired from the Texas National Guard.

[dipodomys]

Jim V They always handed me the loaded magazines and said "Carry these". Not the same thing at all. Even the ammo gets heavy for the blamed thing. Had to carry it through all that training then never got to fire it in combat. Made that mistake 45Yrs ago and NO! I don't still like BARs.

[Phil Ca]

I worked with a guy in SF for a number of years that was a retired USAF NCO. Prior to his air force service he did three years in the army and part of that during the war in Korea. He said that one night he was on guard duty with his BAR and in the moonlight he saw what appeared to be someone trying to climb the wire. He watched a bit more to make sure and then opened up with the BAR. The next morning he saw that he had ventilated a set of army long johns that had been drying on the wire.

When I was in the army in Germany in the mid 50's we stocked small arms to issue to using units. The BAR, grease gun, .30 caliber and .50 caliber Browning MG's and M1 rifles, M2 carbines and handguns in .380, .38 Special and .45 caliber. Also the bayonets for the rifle and carbine.

[guy sajer]

Great story Phil . I bet the owner of the long johns wasn't happy ;) . Those Korean winter nights were not pleasant , I'm told .

.380 pistols ? I'll assume Colt's . I'm surprised they inventoried those . Plain clothes MP issue ?

[Popeye]

As I recall, .380 Colts in the Army inventory were mostly for General Officers and a few Colonels The higher your rank, the smaller the caliber of handgun you carry.

[Phil Ca]

guy sajer and Popeye: The .380 was for issue to generals. During my 30 months in Germany we issued only one to a brand new Chemical Corps General. It was a hilarious day let me tell you. :D

I wrote about it on 10-22-04 ina thread called "A True Story About a general Officers Pistol" if anyone cares to look it up. I would cut and paste but I seemto have left those skills back in elementary school where we used real scissors and paste. :up:

[Old Soldier]

Here is the link to that story.
http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26474&highlight=True+Story+general+Officers+Pistol






:psycho: :psycho:

[John Henry]

If I recall correctly .... during WW2 and Korea the Remington, model #51 ( in .380 ) was issued to the nurse corp.

[C96]

He seems to be satisfied. :D

Clyde Barrow, if you didn't guess.

[guy sajer]

Thanks for the info Phil :)