Canada Handgun Ban


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12-08-2005, 03:44 PM
GRAHAM FRASER

Liberal leader Paul Martin has vowed to ban handguns in Canada.
"This is not the Canada we imagined," Martin said, evoking the dramatic rise in violent crime, citing 50 murders in Toronto, and singling out handguns as the cause. "I’ve come to the conclusion we should ban handguns."

Flanked by Ontario Attorney-General Michael Bryant and Toronto Mayor David Miller, Martin announced a five-part strategy to get handguns off the street, increase community activities, and invest more in law enforcement and border surveillance.

"Handguns kill people," he said. "That’s why they exist."

Martin’s plan, which will depend upon provincial participation, got an immediate boost from Ontario’s Attorney-General.

“You can count Ontario in!” Bryant said enthusiastically, arguing that the National Rifle Association, the U.S. gun lobby, is creeping into Canada.

“The right to bear handguns is not a Canadian value,” Bryant said.

Similarly, Miller thanked Martin for the announcement.

"I could not think of a more important announcement for the people of Toronto than the banning of handguns," Miller said. “Guns turn punks into killers."

Miller said that police statistics showed that half of gun-related crimes are caused by guns from the United States and half are stolen from gun owners.

He cited a recent case of 30 guns stolen from a collector, 12 of which were subsequently traced to crimes, including one murder.

“We have to get to the supply of guns and choke it off,” he said.

The strategy consists of:

· An amendment to the Criminal Code to invite provincial and territorial governments to participate in banning handguns, and a program to buy back guns.

· Tougher penalties for violent gun crimes and gang violence, doubling the mandatory minimum sentences for trafficking, smuggling and possessing handguns.

· An end to re-licencing fees for long-gun owners to ease their anger at the Canada Firearms Program.

· The creation of a $50 million Gun Violence and Gang Prevention Fund that would help organizations prevent gun violence and gang activity through programs aimed at angry young men.

· More money for law enforcement, including $225 million over five years to create an RCMP Advanced Community Safety and Rapid Enforcement Team, an additional $10 million a year for the RCMP training academy, $50 million over five years for a Rural Community Safety Plan, and $40 million over five years to hire 75 more specialists for the Canada Border Services Agency – a total of $325 million.

According to background documents prepared by the Liberals, the RCMP will be able to increase the number of graduates to 1,400 new officers every year.

Conservative strategists scoffed at the announcement, pointing out that firearm offences had almost doubled when handguns were banned in Britain, and that 84 per cent of homicides were committed with unregistered firearms.

They argued that the legislation the Martin government introduced in the fall included no measures to roughen penalties for violent gun crimes.

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MtJerry
12-08-2005, 03:48 PM
Good luck Canada ... it aint gonna work and unfortunately you will learn the hard way. :(

7.62mmFMJ
12-08-2005, 04:40 PM
"Handguns kill people," he said. "That’s why they exist."

Well, I am sure glad that this is cleared up :lool: Hello, Canada, that is why we have them!

OFallon
12-08-2005, 04:59 PM
I like Canadians, generally... but they are a bit screwed up. I guess I go there (I'm about 10 minutes away) just to lend them a hand getting into "correct thinking" mode.;)

RED DOG-40
12-08-2005, 05:36 PM
"Handguns kill people," he said. "That’s why they exist."


... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lool: :lool: :lool: :lool: :lool: :lool: ......

..:shh: ..Don't tell the libs about this intelligent breakthrough... :rolleyes: .. :D

BrockthePaine
12-08-2005, 06:06 PM
He completely forgot the corollary of that statement: "Handguns PROTECT people."

MORON!

ducktapehero
12-08-2005, 06:39 PM
"Handguns kill people," he said. "That’s why they exist."Mine must be broke. It hasn't killed anyone.

7.62mmFMJ
12-08-2005, 06:56 PM
Mine must be broke. It hasn't killed anyone.

That is an excellent point. I don't know of any handguns that have killed. After all, they are inanimate objects.

AZ GrayBeard
12-08-2005, 08:01 PM
Boy, am I screwed up. I thought people kill people, and you stopped murders by taking the killers off the street. A handgun is a tool, and a most valuable equalizer for women and the elderly. These persons are going to be among the increased number of victims of violent crime that is certain to follow the actions of these Liberals in Canada.

Popeye
12-08-2005, 09:52 PM
Its not our fault. We must find somewhere to lay the blame. Let's blame handguns. Better yet, let's blame Americans. Ahh, even better, let's blame American handguns. That'll do it. No one will look at out failed policies.

Hook
12-09-2005, 09:22 AM
"Handguns kill people," he said. "That’s why they exist."

Mine must be broke. It hasn't killed anyone.

That is an excellent point. I don't know of any handguns that have killed. After all, they are inanimate objects.

Yes, exactly....

When a drunk driver kills someone, they don't say: A Ford or Chevy, etal, killed someone, no, it's the drunk drivers fault.



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Redrum
12-09-2005, 09:36 AM
He's got the right idea...sort of.....Let's ban Criminals!!! Then crime will go down!!!...Oh wait....criminals are already banned....guess that doesn't work either....:dunno: HEY! Let's ban politicians!!!:up:

Huntindoc
12-09-2005, 10:26 AM
Hook,
Haven't you heard....It's the Bars fault for serving someone who was drunk,

or maybe they weren't before they were served but they were when the drove. Yeah. That's it. It's the bar's responsibility to make sure someone doesn't drive if they drink. Give me a break!!!!!

I think it is societies fault for not forcing people to take responsibilty for their own actions.

You commit a crime with a gun you go to jail for 15 years minimum. No parole. You injure someone with a gun during a crime--life sentence. You kill someone--You die.

Same thing with drunk drivers. First offense--no drivers license for 3years. with 10yrs probation and 15,000 fine. Second offense 5 years in prison, no license for life, 30,000 fine. If you ever get caught again. 30years in prison minimum. If you injure someone--25years-life. If you kill someone, life in prison. More than one. You die.

Why is this so hard??

7.62mmFMJ
12-09-2005, 10:33 AM
Yes, exactly....

When a drunk driver kills someone, they don't say: A Ford or Chevy, etal, killed someone, no, it's the drunk drivers fault.



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SUVs have been known to kill many, although there are no reports of maniacal Hybrids :D

Dframe
12-09-2005, 11:55 AM
Good luck Canada ... it aint gonna work and unfortunately you will learn the hard way. :(
Sadly NO and NO. No it won't work and NO they won't learn anything.
Thats one of the lefts sadest leagcies. They rarely embrace new strategies they simply keep plugging away at the same failed policies. "My anit-gun law isn't a failure, it just wasn't quite strict enough"

BountyHunter
12-10-2005, 10:22 AM
He's got the right idea...sort of.....Let's ban Criminals!!! Then crime will go down!!!...Oh wait....criminals are already banned....guess that doesn't work either....:dunno: HEY! Let's ban politicians!!!:up:
We did pan politicians but the crooks keep coming back :D

Lupey
12-10-2005, 10:25 AM
Sheeps to the slaughter!!

BountyHunter
12-10-2005, 10:26 AM
The fellow gunowners from the Great White North are not to happy about it either. You should look around one of there forums.


http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/

AppleFarmer
01-10-2006, 12:09 PM
The entire ban proposition was done to encourage voters to support the Liberals as the Conservatives have stated they intend to deregulate the present gun registration. If anyone has been watching the polls, the Liberals dropped 9 points when they came out with this nonsense.

How do you ban something that is prohibited/ restricted or banned already? Stupid is as stupid does.

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