That Criminal Cheney


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AZ GrayBeard
02-15-2006, 05:29 AM
Criminal Charges?

The New York Times said (hopefully?) that if Whittington dies, Cheney faces criminal charges. It was reported that about 5 pellets hit the man, which means that he was on the fringe of the pattern. The media and the Democrats continue to make this more important than anything else in the news.

Local officials have not considered any charges in the shooting because no one in the hunting party, including the victim, has accused Mr. Cheney of wrongdoing.

"Everybody that I've heard so far has said it was an accident," said Mr. Valdez, who holds an elected position and is a Democrat. "The victim probably told the sheriff's department it was an accident."

Mr. Valdez added, "Now, if the worst happens and the man happens to die, we would take an additional step."

Under the law, even an accidental hunting fatality can result in criminal charges. Mr. Cheney could be charged with negligence, defined as failing to understand the dangers involved and disregarding them, or recklessness, defined as understanding the dangers and disregarding them.

After some initial confusion about what steps the local police had taken to investigate the shooting on Saturday, Secret Service officials said on Tuesday that they had offered to make the vice president available for an interview as quickly as possible but that the local sheriff had agreed to wait until Sunday.

COMMENT: The press believes that they are more important than the sheriff, and should have been told Saturday night.

Eric Zahren, a Secret Service spokesman, said the shooting occurred at 5:50 p.m. Central time, slightly later than the White House had said at first. After helping Mr. Whittington into an ambulance, the agents in Mr. Cheney's security detail returned to their command post on the hunting ranch by 6:30 p.m. The Secret Service supervisor in McAllen, Tex., had called the sheriff in Kenedy County to tell him about the shooting by 7 p.m., Mr. Zahren said.

The Media wants this to be a big deal, however. NBCNEWS chief White House correspondent David Gregory warned President Bush's spokesman on Monday not to be a "jerk!"

The heated exchange came during a press gathering at the White House.Gregory asked White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan about the Cheney hunting accident.

'David, hold on, the cameras aren't on right now,' McClellan replied. 'You can do this later.'

'Don't accuse me of trying to pose to the cameras,' Gregory said, voice rising. 'Don't be a jerk to me personally when I'm asking you a serious question.'

'You don't have to yell,' McClellan said.

'I will yell,'' said Gregory, pointing a finger at McCellan at his dais. 'If you want to use that podium to try to take shots at me personally, which I don't appreciate, then I will raise my voice, because that's wrong.'

'Calm down, Dave, calm down,' said McClellan.

'I'll calm down when I feel like calming down,' Gregory said. 'You answer the question.'

'I have answered the question,' said McClellan, who had maintained that the vice president's office was in charge of getting the information out and worked with the ranch owner to do that. 'I'm sorry you're getting all riled up about.'

'I am riled up,' Gregory said, 'because you're not answering the question.'" Democrats in Congress accused Vice President Dick Cheney of a pattern of secrecy, and demanded that he "level" with the public, after keeping mum about accidentally shooting an associate over the weekend.

Asked at a press conference for her reaction about how the White House has handled the incident, US Senator Hillary Clinton called the Bush administration's failure to be more forthcoming "troubling."

"A tendency of this administration -- from the top all the way to the bottom -- is to withhold information ... to refuse to be forthcoming about information that is of significance and relevance to the jobs that all of you do, and the interests of the American people," Clinton said.

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NT
02-15-2006, 05:45 AM
It's getting worse out there.

It's getting a lot worse.

Now the newscasters are openly abusing the people they interview.

Gotta question...

How many of us have been asked our reaction to the shooting?

What makes Mrs. Clinton's opinion on the subject so relevant, as opposed to any one of the other 100 US senators or the 250 million+ Americans?

BobD
02-15-2006, 05:50 AM
Remember Vince Foster, Thunderthighs. :psycho:

Pathfinder
02-15-2006, 06:55 AM
Ok, the guy made a mistake. He admitted it.

So when will Ted admit his? (And his died as a result).

Redrum
02-15-2006, 08:09 AM
They did their duty. They reported it to the local authorities. After that there is no legal need to report it to the press. I'd tell them to go f&&& themselves......:down:

AZ GrayBeard
02-15-2006, 02:00 PM
Ok, the guy made a mistake. He admitted it.
Well, his sentence has been announced. He was found guilty. Cheney will be hung by the media until DEAD!

Antlurz
02-15-2006, 02:04 PM
Watch someone introduce a law that mandates the national press corps (corpses?) be notifiied at any time a private shooting involves any White House operatives.

If someone had shot Cheney, there wouldn't have been this much coverage.....

ScarletPumpernickel
02-15-2006, 05:06 PM
At keast he didn't leave the poor guy in the field to die.

Dakotalawdog
02-15-2006, 06:16 PM
How long till Cheney has his own heart attack from this and dies? Will the f*cking media accept any responsibility in that? :mad:

AZ GrayBeard
02-15-2006, 07:48 PM
How long till Cheney has his own heart attack from this and dies? Will the f*cking media accept any responsibility in that? :mad:
Has the media EVER accepted the responsibility for ANYTHING they published? The :censor:ing liberal leaning media hurts America almost as much as the ACLU.
By the way, the NYT made a vicious attack on men that hunt birds in an article today, but that is not a surprise, because I don't remember a single time when they supported anything that America values.
I hope they slip and fall on the knives they are throwing at Cheney.:mad:

Urzandowski
02-15-2006, 09:25 PM
I hunt quail, pheasant. As far as I understand the story...Whittington was ahead of the "line". Its as much his fault as it was Cheneys.

You get excited walking a pasture in waist deep grass, anticipating a bird. You, everybody, has to pay attention to the other guys. And you count on them to be in their places, when that bird gets up. But the Urz is not so innocent, I'v had pellets zing over my head before.

Which brings me to the Press. If somehow, they would read this, I would say...Getoverit! Lack of anything else to do? Hunting accidents like this happen all... of... the... TIME! At least they weren't out with the Deer rifles.

Jim V
02-16-2006, 12:37 PM
And IIRCf, the sheriff down there said that it wasn't anything to get excited about, "it happens all the time."

Vibe
02-16-2006, 01:36 PM
And IIRCf, the sheriff down there said that it wasn't anything to get excited about, "it happens all the time.""It happens all the time" is NOT a good thing to be spreading around, it really should NOT happen "all the time". But as I understand the story Whittington has accepted responsibility for leaving the group/line and then rejoining without announcing his presence. Had I done anything even remotely similar as a kid when dad and I went quail hunting, I'd have walked the rest of the trip with no shotgun. If I was lucky that and a tongue lashing is all that would have happened. Whittington comitts the "unsafe act" and Cheny gets lambasted....typical.

papa g
02-16-2006, 07:33 PM
heard on Rush today, a caller claiming to be a Texas hunting guide, said that the quail stamp the VP needed was something new, and that few hunters were aware of it, so much so that any hunters found with out the stamp have been issued warnings, but no fines.

does any one know of any links to this???

Antlurz
02-16-2006, 08:41 PM
I've read it in several places. It's something new, and Cheney's office DID ask for all permits when he applied, and the conservation office failed to tell them he needed this one as well....

Ron

Jim V
02-16-2006, 09:22 PM
One thing I really , I mean REALLY like about Mr. Cheney is the fact he likes, owns and shoots 'whisper' maachineguns.

NT
02-17-2006, 07:59 AM
If someone had shot Cheney, there wouldn't have been this much coverage.....
Maybe, but there would have been just as much laughter and cheering.

Remember when Bush started choking on a pretzel?

Dakotalawdog
02-17-2006, 08:24 AM
One thing I really , I mean REALLY like about Mr. Cheney is the fact he likes, owns and shoots 'whisper' maachineguns.

The VEEP owns machine guns? COOOOOOLLLL!!!!!

Got to shake his hand once doing a security detail up here in ND a couple years ago. Good handshake, always a good measure of a man.

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