[OFallon]

Well, it seems that many of the critics of thye President's so-called plan, for Iraq, were correct... even after being bashed by the administration and the general membership of the Republican Party.

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday that he may approve proposals by the Iraqi government and the top U.S. commander in Baghdad to increase the size of the Iraqi security forces. "I'm very comfortable with the increases they've proposed and the accelerations in achievement of some of their targets," Rumsfeld told reporters at the Pentagon, when asked about a report by CBS News that Gen. George Casey, the top commander in Iraq, was going to recommend an increase of up to 100,000 soldiers and police.

[Saunders]

So?

If he changes, he gets the same flak as if he doesn't.

BDS.


“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”


"And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs," Kerry said...

[7.62mmFMJ]

He is acknowledging that IRAQI commanders want 100,000 additional IRAQI police and security forces.

[7.62mmFMJ]

http://media.salemwebnetwork.com/TownHall/Car/b/kn1031bd.jpg

[Saunders]

I spent Friday night at a neighbor boy's home for a welcome party for him upon his return from Iraq. He is an Ohio State graduate and now a 1st Lt. in the Marines.

He will be going back to Iraq in March for another tour of duty. He says he likes his job. He is training Iraqi police and military forces. He said they are good men.

Kerry makes me want to puke. He is not man enough to be in the same room with that young Marine.

I can not respect the decision of anyone who voted for that guy no matter what kind of defense they present.

[7.62mmFMJ]

:agreed: :exactly: OORAH!

[OFallon]

I can not respect the decision of anyone who voted for that guy no matter what kind of defense they present.


:agreed: :exactly: OORAH!


Well, I am certainly sorry you put it that way, but, of course, that is your decision to make.

I served in the USMC and spent 3 years in country Vietnam and 6 1/2 months in the Naval Hospital at Balboa (and not in the rear with the gear, either). I wore 13 personal awards and decorations and the three Hearts were not the least of them. I think I have earned the right to my own opinions, as well. ;)

That you chosse not to respect my decision is of little consequence to me.

[Saunders]

You have the right to your view, illustrious background or not. Your record neither adds nor detracts from it. However, I thank you for your service which was admirable.

However, while I respect you as a person, and I suspect we would get along well over a cold one, your political views supporting Kerry don't earn my respect. I consider them dangerous to my life and liberty. I don't buy into the feel good self esteem fad that all viewpoints are equally valid or worthy of respect.

This is beyond whether we should have Great Society programs or some other domestic policy foolishness.

[BobD]

Well, I am certainly sorry you put it that way, but, of course, that is your decision to make.

I served in the USMC and spent 3 years in country Vietnam and 6 1/2 months in the Naval Hospital at Balboa (and not in the rear with the gear, either). I wore 13 personal awards and decorations and the three Hearts were not the least of them. I think I have earned the right to my own opinions, as well. ;)

That you chosse not to respect my decision is of little consequence to me.

Wow, that sounds so Kerryesque. No wonder you voted for the F man, O man.

[Antlurz]

My old man came back with six bronze stars, a silver one, and the Croix de Guerre, amongst others, but his politics sucked. He was unable to see the political world had changed polarity. He was the worlds best conservative, but he died still voting as a democrat.

The two aren't necessarily comparible..

Ron

[Incitatus1]

The French army marechal Petain was a higly decorated WWI veteran and a distinguished hero of the French Republic.
However, after the French army was defeated in the beginning of WWII and during the Nazi occupation of France, the same marechal Petain accepted to lead the shameful government of Vichy, a nazi puppet.

History teaches us many lessons, Paul. Being a war hero doesn't necessarily makes everybody a man of honor and principle.

[Fuelburns1]

Disagreeing with the majority doesn't always mean you're entirely wrong either. How boring would this be if everyone agreed?

[Saunders]

I will be happy to be bored if we had enough people agreeing on national security and less government involvement in our private lives.

[7.62mmFMJ]

:bump:

[Fuelburns1]

I will be happy to be bored if we had enough people agreeing on national security and less government involvement in our private lives.

I don't think those are issues we disagree on. Our leaders are far removed from our views on these issues. Even my most liberal friends concur with me on these topics.

[Saunders]

I don't think the top Dem leadership can be trusted with national security. They hate the military and have proved that since they were kids protesting Viet Nam.

They view every dollar spent on the military as a dollar they don't have for social welfare programs. It was not long ago the mantra was the "peace dividend".

They also can not be trusted with tax policy. They can not be trusted with gun rights and being in charge of LEO agencies such as the FBI or ATFE which are bad enough already when it comes to RKBA.

There is a huge difference.

[Popeye]

I don't think the top Dem leadership can be trusted with national security. They hate the military and have proved that since they were kids protesting Viet Nam.

They view every dollar spent on the military as a dollar they don't have for social welfare programs. It was not long ago the mantra was the "peace dividend".

They also can not be trusted with tax policy. They can not be trusted with gun rights and being in charge of LEO agencies such as the FBI or ATFE which are bad enough already when it comes to RKBA.

There is a huge difference.
Synopsis: They cannot be trusted!

[7.62mmFMJ]

I almost forgot about the "peace dividend" :lool: :rotf:

Klinton cut defense spending and gave that money away to social programs. Then Bush had to increase defense spending and we still have the social programs. Great Dividend!

[Saunders]

I think the peace dividend is in the lock box with my social security money.

[Antlurz]

Ah, yes. That wonderful lockbox. :lool:

Ron

[7.62mmFMJ]

:mad: :lool: :angry: :rotf: