[Sir Knight]

<font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#000080"><strong>Concerns have been raised by some that the forums which we now have are a little bit confusing as to what topics should be posted where. Since this is really YOUR board (<em>the staff merely takes care of paying the bills, upgrading the software and addressing problems when they come up</em>), we want to get the membership's opinion on this matter ...

1) Do you feel that our forums are:

*** a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)
*** b. pretty well organized (but could use some improvement)
*** c. somewhat confusing (and need major improvements)
*** d. totally confusing (and need to re-organized from the very beginning)

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

... Just to clarify, we are not looking to ADD more forums but to BETTER catagorize the forums which we already have.
</strong></p>

[PreserveFreedom]

1) Do you feel that our forums are:
a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)
2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.
N/A
3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?
The feeling of "home". The large number of non-firearms related forums give us a chance to think of other things and ask advice about every day stuff. It gives things more of a family feel.
4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?
Well we have a lower member count than some places, but we are also newer than most. Ironically, I have been thinking of a way to help that recently. Why not encourage those that have pro-gun websites to provide a link (graphic or text) to the site? FFF could even provide some hot-linkable images for graphic links. An example of code could be:

&lt;CENTER&gt;&lt;A HREF="http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com"&gt;&lt;IMG SRC="http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forums/wtcsmal.gif" WIDTH="365" HEIGHT="60" ALIGN="middle" BORDER="0" ALT="Family, Friends, and Firearms - The Triple F Ranch"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/CENTER&gt;

By letting people hotlink to images, FFF staff can update logos without having everyone that links update their site by simply naming a new banner the same as an older banner.

(Edited to fix code - you are supposed to see the code above, not the image/link.)

[ 09-26-2001: Message edited by: PreserveFreedom ]

[bsampsel]

Honestly, I've been on several forums and I'd say that there is no "perfect" categorization.

There will be some overlap in categories...but it's nice to have firearms skill stuff broken out from firearms politics. Keeps things nice and separate.

There are a LOT of forum categories...far more than I can keep up with...but I *might* consider combining the handgun stuff into one single forum. Same with rifles for rifles. etc.

But, it's only a minor suggestion. Overall, this is one of the best organized forum sites I've had the pleasure of being on.

bryan

[Aquamarine Lava]

1) Do you feel that our forums are:


a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

N/A

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?


A swell crowd of people

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?


... actually I cannot think of much to put here.....

[Charleton]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Alan Fud:
[QB]

1) Do you feel that our forums are:

*** a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)
*** b. pretty well organized (but could use some improvement)
*** c. somewhat confusing (and need major improvements)
*** d. totally confusing (and need to re-organized from the very beginning)

B. This is based on a sometimes foggy memory -- I haven't had time to visit for a few days, but it seems that it could use a little tweaking -- nothing major.

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

The chance to have fairly personal conversations with folks who share my interest in firearms and related topics.

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

... Just to clarify, we are not looking to ADD more forums but to BETTER catagorize the forums which we already have.

Gene.

[jim]

I like the current organization and find it pretty usefull. I would leave it as it is.

the strong points are small size, (hope that we stay that way) and diversity of opinions and a group that is secure enough themselves to welcome different points of view.

the only weak point is that sometimes there is this subtle pull from the Dark Side.

[Old Soldier]

What PreserveFreedom has said. :rolleyes: :eek:

[Rick Solomon]

I'll have to go with choice A. I think things are fine the way they are. FFF is a low key forum - no flame wars, no strident rhetoric (at least not too much) - and that's its appeal.

If somebody posts to the wrong forum, so what? The moderators move it with a friendly note, and that's that. Because of this, we can have non-shooters and avid shooters, men and women, and other apparently disparate groups or "unmatched" people on the board.

If the board wants to tighten up its guidelines, that would probably make the "unitiated" less inclined to post for fear of violating a guideline or two. New shooters and the less fanatical need a place to go, and FFF is the best I've seen.

[T LEE]

Like many forums I visit, I think there are too many sub-divisions. Maybe just Handguns w/ Semi auto and revolver division and Long guns w/ Shotgun and rifle divisions. Most other items under hob-nobbing?

The small size and diversity ARE A BIG PLUS, Y'll are doing a great job!

[Jim V]

A tweak or two might be needed. We have several gun related forums that have little traffic, some of them I moderate (makes it easy, all I have to do is dust once in a while :p), and, perhaps, they could be combined.

Strong points: Nice group of people.

Weak points: To small a membership, I know some of our members followed my links from 1911 Forum but I don't understand why the board has not grown as well as it should have.

[Richard J.]

1) Do you feel that our forums are:
b. pretty well organized (but could use some improvement)

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

I would suggest grouping all the handgun stuff together, instead of having revo and auto forums. I wish there were some way to add an audio feature.

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

The close "family" feeling, and the fact that we can discuss topics other than firearms. Personally, I think one of the reasons for this is our small membership. I don't want us to get TOO big.

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

None I can think of.

[HiPower]

I like things just the way they are. Nice bunch o' folks, nice diversity of opinions. Not much in the way of flames. Little to no foul language (a personal hot button).

I really like the current layout. I'm just anal enough to not want things uncategorized.

[Tony from Finland]

Well, I'd say the forums are organized just fine, except that traffic to some is a little low...

The good thing here is, well, that family-like feeling. :) People here are a good bunch of people.

Downside: Some people speak of the diversity here being a good thing. I don't know where you've been surfing, but don't bother providing any links... :p I sometimes feel that everyone here seems to be much like everyone else - me excluded of course. All American Christian Republicans. Which of course isn't quite the case, but especially after the terrorist attack, some of the posts with little thought towards or sometimes even hostile views of foreigners have made me feel once again a stranger here. Still, it could be worse: At TFL I recall people wanting to kill of entire countries with nuclear weapons right after the attack on WTC... Now THAT scared the hell out of me!

The other downside is that, like I said, there aren't as much firearms related posts as one would wish. There should be more discussions about different firearms - not forgetting the accessories of course ;), talking about firearms as other than just defensive tools, things like that. (There might more of that sort of thing at the longarm forums though. Me, I'm more a handgunner, so I don't visit 'em as often as I should.)

[Nes]

I think everything is pretty good. Myself, I would like to see more hunting, reloading and different firearm posts. Rifle, shotgun and handguns. A lot of nice people on here and I reall engoy it. Gary C.

[Son]

Strong Points:
Friendly atmosphere
No totalitarian type staff members


Weak Points: Low member count
Sloooooooow loading time (I'm on cable)

[jimfox]

Originally posted by Alan Fud:
<STRONG>

<font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="#000080">matter ...

1) Do you feel that our forums are:

*** a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)
*** b. pretty well organized (but could use some improvement)
*** c. somewhat confusing (and need major improvements)
*** d. totally confusing (and need to re-organized from the very beginning)

a)

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

What Tony said.

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

What Tony said.

... Just to clarify, we are not looking to ADD more forums but to BETTER catagorize the forums which we already have.
</STRONG></p>

[Charlie D]

My feedback is very very sketchy --- I've been off line for some time now. I'm not prepared to respond directly to some of your considerations. I must say that I'm prepared to continue participating in the very near future...
I will try to be a active poster and contributor to the satisfaction of all who choose to log on to FFF.

I would like to see the forum succeed according to everybodies expectations. Thanks for the opportunity offer my brief remarks.

[wendy]

I like it just the way it is. It is user friendly for those of who are maybe not so computer literate as others. I am not as comfortable on that other larger board. The people are not as friendly and the board is just not woman user friendly. JUST MY OPINION...DO NOT HANG ME FOR IT!

That plus I think changing things drastically might not make it easier to use and thus we would lose members not gain them.

There are plenty of gun forums for me to lurk in and learn and "wendy friendly" forums that I can actually post an intelligent thought.

I love the new Patriotic back grounds. I do not know of any weak points but I do not go to many boards so I really do not know what to look for, but that could be a good thing....maybe????

[Turtlenapper]

I like it just the way it is: :)

We are FAMILY,FRIENDS,FIREARMS......
When we first started this we knew it would take a little while.
Like I said in the beginning "if you build it they will come".

We are not like our sister board because it's a all gun board.

We have something for everyone that is what FAMILY means,
no fighting just one big happy family.FRIENDS that is what we have
become.If you want to post something then post,just keep it clean
if it don't go in that room it will be nicely moved and we will tell you where.

We are all here to learn. :)

[guerrilla1138]

Originally posted by Alan Fud:


1) Do you feel that our forums are:

*** a. very well catagorized. If its decided that changes need to be made, I am cool with that. Just dont go making my forum part of another.... ;) J/K (I think :D) ;)


***

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

the totally family atmosphere, the friendship between members, the fact that Staff (myself included I hope) dont use their powers like they are board Gods (Goderators? ;) ) Like I have seen on other boards. This place is cool, we may be small, but I am honestly of the opinion (and not just because I am Staff either) that we are the best around.


4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

Weak points? what weak points?
Perhaps PreserveFreedom had a point in saying the low amount of membership...but I dunno, I kinda liek the pace this board has grown at, it lets everyone adjust pretty well I think. But I certainly wouldnt mind a bit to see it pick up a little.

[ 09-26-2001: Message edited by: guerilla1138 ]

[Arub]

I think that the forum is very well organized. I like the friendly atmosphere a interchanges among posters. No real flamers, no foul language as is prominent on one of the more popular firearm related sites.

The lack of participants may be overcome with time. If not, remember that it is quality that really counts, not quantity (sounds like the 9mm vs 40cal vs 45acp arguments?). Keep up the current good work, your current attitude towards profanity - this is a family, friends and firearms site.

Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of this forum and keep up the good work.

[WyldOne]

i think the forums are really well organized. the only confusion comes when one topic could fit in a couple different forums, but i think overlap is gonna be inevitable

as far as strong points, i would say the nice people here. even if you stumble, there's someone (or a bunch of people) to help you up. and, the mix of gun-owners and non-gun owners as members and as moderators. if you don't feel like talking about guns you don't have to, but if you do want to talk about guns, you can talk on any level beginner-advanced.

i see the small size as a plus, not a weakness. once a board gets too big, it definitely looses the family and friends atmosphere. i watched it happen to "that other" board that i came from, it was heartbreaking...

i can't think of any weaknesses

[Rico]

What little time I spend on the computer this time of year, and with the few times I have been able to visit the board, I must say that I see no reason to change things. I have found it to be very well laid out and easy to navigate. I am sure that there could be improvements made but as with anything else in life, no matter what you do, there are going to be some that will not be satisfied.
Just my $.02 worth. :D :D :D

[El Jefe]

What Jim and Bryan said! it is what i like about my own The Armed Citizen! (http://www.thearmedcitizen.net) Small intellectual group with great ideas and a wealth of knowledge from Hunting to IDPA........ http://www.thearmedcitizen.net/images/TAC_Banner.gif
You have a great board I would not change it!

[KyKen]

1) Do you feel that our forums are:
b. pretty well organized (but could use some improvement)

2) If you chose answers b-d please provide comments and/or suggestions.

I would like to suggest a separate Board for CCW issues. There are a lot of CCW FAQ's that are repeated and are discussed in both the Semi-Auto Forum and the Revolver Forum. Since I assume most of the subscribers to FFF are also carrying guns in some capacity, this would be a good addition to allow members to discuss CCW issues separate from what is in other forums. i.e. - Which caliber is best.....Which gun is best.....which rig is best.....etc. It would clean up the other two forums and let the CCW questions get better focus.

I would suggest a forum for different shooting sports be added such as Skeet, Trap, and even hunting boards during typical hunting season. Large Dangerous game, African Game, Deer/Elk, Small game, etc.
I would also suggest a links area to other firearms manufacturers, reference information, reloading information, etc. and let the members send in their links to help build this board. There may even be a little income from it for the administrators who pay for the upkeep of the board. A lot of members have already attached links to their messages.

A final suggestion is a good web security system that warns all of us when Stu is comming on line and gives us 20-30 seconds to get off before he gets on......(LOL Kidding Stu).

Overall a great site if you did not change a thing. These are just some of my thoughts.....not as if the administrators need any more work.

GREAT JOB GUYS.

3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?

Genuinely Friendly people with a good sense of humor and a relatively small membership that gives good advice.

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?

Depends on what you are trying to do and not achieving. I think FFF is doing everything you have set as your goals and then a bit more. That does not show any weak points. I suggest posting a mission statement as to why you have this website set up. Once you agree to what you all want to do......do it. (About us.....) I think what you are doing is very good.


... Just to clarify, we are not looking to ADD more forums but to BETTER catagorize the forums which we already have.

Sorry, I made the first suggestion to add a bunch of forums..... But the CCW forum may help keep the revolver and Semi-auto discussions more focused. The others are just suggestions.

[VictorLouis]

Just like PF stated it in the first reply. :)

[Rusty]

Slow
Slower
Slowest
Never does finish loading sometimes.

( However, cable is supposed to be on the way )

[Turkeycall]

I think the fourm is fine, when I first joined in it took a little bit to get the idea, but I didn't get on many fourms either. Keep up the good work.

[John Henry]

It Ain't Broke .... Don't Fix It !!!!

Don't improve anything!
I can't afford to spend any more time on the computer than I do now!

[She Who Must Be Obeyed]

I don't think anything should be changed either. (except maybe adding more instant gremlins for people like me who can't figure out how to do it by themselves.) :D

[bd]

I agree with John Henry. BD

[jsr5]

1) B I guess although the only problem was a little confusion on my part with hob nobbing and General discussion, really more my lack of attention than a problem withthe organization.

3) Our friendly family atmosphere, and diversity.

4) somtimes the arguments over differing veiws have gotten a little on the hateful side but, since the last time when I went back to look for the spat in question it was gone I guess it was handled by the PTB. No real complaints except I have too little time to spend here and that's not somthing you can fix.

[KMDO]

Seeing how staff has been posting here thought id add my 2 cents.

Very slow for me esp after losing hs connection, but still had problems then.

Would like def of legal political same as tfl as it gives more latitude on the posts there.

[tree]

It is only fitting that I follow Ken's post. I am for the most part responsible for his addition to this "club"

#1 & #2 Format suggestions
Due to the sometimes slowwwww posting rate, I would like to see a couple firearms forums combined. I would suggest Rifle, Handgun, Shotgun. Thats it! The current format mirrors another site we have all visited, They can justify the choices, because they have the volume to make it prudent. We don't really need it....at least not yet.

I don't really like to navigating between forums to only find one entry since my last visit.

While I am mostly a semi auto fan, I could more easily and frankly would actually read posts about other handgun types if they were all on the same forum. The key is a good subject line to distinguish the posts.


#3 What do I like ? ..... nice folks, knowledgable folks, folks who don't take themselves tooooo seriously and who don't mind if my few posts are often satirical in nature.

#4 Dislikes.... I don't post very often....I should post more.
I wish there were some who shoot high power like I do, so we could trade sucess stories. I wish we could see morepics of other members collection, especially really "unique firearms".

I wish I could see every members name that is on the site when I log on. It used to be that way at the old site ....Or am I confused?

[tatters]

I enjoy this board and the folks here so very much, and can think of nothing I would change.

[Greg L]

Overall this place is great, it is one of the first places that I go when getting online.

Some of the lesser traveled forums could be combined (firearms research & handloading, CAS & range exercises). I do like KyKen's idea of a CCW forum (you could probably roll accessories into this one also). If we bled the carry caliber wars off into here you could probably combine the three handgun forums into one (I know that I don't always check all three even when there are new messages). The three long arm forums could be combined (if you are trying to reduce the # of forums), but I don't hang out there much so it really doesn't matter to me.

As far as the size of the place goes I'm very happy with it. As the first word of the title is Family I like the smaller size and the ability to get to know people a bit. Yes I would enjoy more posts on some areas (my fault too I know) but I would rather have this than something where there are literally new posts coming every minute. I know that on the "other" place if I don't check in often I then avoid it as I know that I have too much catching up to do. Here I know that I can catch up if I want to.

So, tweaking could be done if so desired but it isn't bad as it is.

Greg

[Ramangel]

Originally posted by tree:
<STRONG>I wish I could see every members name that is on the site when I log on. It used to be that way at the old site ....Or am I confused?</STRONG>

You are confused :D

In the top left corner of the main page it tells you how many members are currently on board. If you click on that link, it tells you the members names. But it is even better than the old board because it also tells you what forum & what topic they are viewing/replying to. Or if they are just browsing.

In each forum, the name of each member in that form is listed, instead of the total count for the board.. But just like above, if you click the link, it shows all the members currently online & their locations. :)

Did I confuse you more?


:D

[Sandman]

Have to agree with JH. It ain't broke ..Don't fix it! :)

[The Brick SVPH]

1]Do you feel that our forums are:
a. very well catagorized (don't touch a thing)


3) What do you feel are our strong points here at FFF?
Feeling at home

4) What do you feel are our weak points here at FFF?
Dunno

[Frenchy]

I have moved FFF to the top of my "favorites" list because I spend more time here than any other forum. The reasons are those stated above.
I see no reason to make any major changes. I compare FFF, to hanging around the General Store vs. some other forums, as hanging around Wal-Mart. I like the small friendly feeling.

[Gerry]

A)

What most said, err,


(sarcasm)
Change every forum to match what I want to see today (/sarcasm)


Lets use what we have, consider what is used, and stay a family.

But I don't get over here much, so (Just like my boss says) Feel free to ignore my input!

Ger
Edited to let the imaginary tags show...

[ 09-28-2001: Message edited by: Gerry ]

[First Freedom]

Slinger, I don't spend just a ton of time here, but here's my two cents anyway:

1. Generally, it's very well organized - I think there is a category for everything and just the right amount of categories. If anything, just right, or maybe one or two too many cats for the number of PRESENT users. So I personally wouldn't change much or anything. I definitely like the General cats, like hob-nobbing, jokes and such.

2. The only thing that occurs to me, which ppl might like, is if you put the General categories ("Talkin' Round the Cracker Barrel" categories), at the top, with the gun-related categories below that - this may have the effect of retaining more non-gunnies who happen upon the site, if that is your goal. OTOH, it may have an adverse effect upon more "gunny" types that initially come to the site. I dunno - tough call.

3. Personally, I don't use the "real-time" (not in real time) chat area, because all forms of "instant messaging" and chat just make no sense to me whatsover. To me, if a topic of conversation is valid, what difference does it make whether two ppl are online at the same time, or one posts (or replies by email) later after another leaves? - but that's just me - others prolly love it.


That's about it. Thanks for the site, and keep up the good work!

Oh, not directly on the topic of board organization, but just general administration, I do agree that it is important to close threads that are duplicates, or that are "post-able" on the board, but just in the wrong area, and move them to the right area, in order to keep things under control. So I'm definitely all for that and understanding of it, AS LONG AS the moderator who closes does as y'all have been doing lately, and that is post a link to the new place for the thread, AND explain in nice way, in a brief statement, that the topic is valid or interesting, but just that it is in the wrong place (or is a duplicate). A healthy dose of tact and diplomacy is needed in those situations, I think, esp. if completely closed.

[ 09-28-2001: Message edited by: Futo Inu ]

[Bear One]

Just my 2 cents (why is don't I have a "cents" key on my keyboard?) WORTH:

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING. If one of us screw up and put something in the wrong forum, move it. I love everything about this site. :cool: :)

[Barman]

Sometimes a little confusing but most of the time pretty good readable stuff and Quickly to find.
There's just negative point: It is very slow !!

Keep up the good work.

[Baba Louie]

A great board to date.
I, like Tree, would like to see a listing of all registered members at the initial log on page instead of in the individual thread/posts. Or maybe in addition to the individual thread/posts. This way, when you sign on you know who else is on board. After reading all the areas for awhile you pretty much know who's gonna be where, but it is a nice thought.
As for the size...it's just right at this time. Family and friends. Once you get bigger, you attract all sorts of strange types (not that we're not kinda strange to begin with).
As an offshoot of TFL, I find several members here posting on different Boards and its nice to see family members on AR-15, Assualt Web, etc.

Keep up the good work (it must be a pain in the you-know-what at times)

If it ain't broke...

Adios Amigos :D

[Gunslinger]

Thank you everyone for your feedback. Without your feedback we can not make Triple F as enjoyable as it can be for you, the family. Our (the staff) goal is to make and keep your home as you would like to have it. Like any good family one person or a small group can not make the decisions.

We had not planned to make any major changes and did not see that they were needed but thought we may be over looking something that others might see and not want to mention. Now, based on your feedback, it appears that no major changes are needed or wanted.
We will weigh your ideas and some forums may be combined or perhaps not. It may take a little while for us to digest your feedback and we will try to accomodate everyone as much as is possible. Rest assured to that any time there are questions in the future about the direction of our home here and decision to be made in possible changes you will be asked again.

For those of you that have said you like the small size we (the staff) had discussed long ago keeping the Triple F family home small by closing new registeration when the time comes. Obviously that time is a ways down the road. But you can be sure that when it looks as though we are getting close you will be asked and the decision will be one that we all make. Speaking just personally I would like to encourage everyone here in the mean time to invite members of your family and those people whom you enjoy from other boards to join us. Inviting friends or loved ones just helps us all know everyone here and further promotes the family and friends atmosphere we all enjoy.

The slow loading becomes frustrating for me as well. Believe me when I say that is the main point the staff is addressing now that we have became more stable. As y'all know we were fighting for some time after our move simply to stay on line and that took all our time. We have since over came that and can now work on speed. Like any new place we are having growing pains and there are times we are a little lost when it comes the best way of making the place work. That is the area we can all thank Dennis, Alan and Bubba in. Without them we would probably be looking at a blank screen. They are the computer gurus that spend a lot of hours working, experimenting and taxing their talents to keep us up and working as best as we can be right now.

We'll study on what y'all have said and in the mean time if there is anything else anyone would like to see or just toss out for consideration please feel free. This is your home.

[LASur5r]

Alan,
Don't touch..works fine.
Strong points....same reason why it was formed up in the beginning. Good crowd of folks getting together as friends with mutual respect for each other.

[Carston]

Okay....ya all may not like me after this...Carston, Troll Patrol as apointed by Stu......

Here is my take....either we lost a lot in the move or people just aren't supporting the board.
I mean, Cliff, Stu and I had some great stuff going on the other board. LASur had some great scenierio but you can find his board any more...buried deep, he is.

Hell LA had a great post goning on imagine a bunker, tree stump and stuff...I road away on a Harley

This is a great board and a lot of great people (don't let the king of thr Mini 14 know I said that)....We gotta get back to having fun and coming here....
Get LASUR's room out of the basement and lets get stuff up and running again :p

Just me...to Love me you have to know me and if you know me you run like hell.

Carston :rolleyes:

[Gunslinger]

Carston, you miserable (&$@&(W@!so-and-so(&^*$##@low-life(^&#@! rik-a-frat-rascal-rabbit! :D
No, seriously, we still like you and you are right on the money with everything you said.
Bear in mind that Triple F's creation was my response to TFL, our sister sites, closing in November of last year. The closing of TFL was done with no notice or forewarning to the people (family) there whom had developed "relationships" with others on that board. The closing was the sole decision of one individual, without the benefit of consultation of the staff and caught everyone unexpecting.
I and Terri, who woke me that morning to bring the closing to my attention, were as mystified and lost as were the vast majority of the other "members" of that Internet community. We, she and I, made a decision to create a refuge if you will for other members there whom had abruptly lost their "home" without warning.
I do not and will not attempt to question the judgment, wisdom or lack thereof in closing the site. That decision, prior to the creation of Triple F, was the sole prerogative of the site owner and he is in no way obligated to ask for or be mandated to ask permission of the staff or members to do so. We, at Triple F, vary in a way not easily expressed in that regard. I do not own Triple F. Nor does the staff. Triple F, I like to think and genuinely believe, is owned by you, the other members of the Triple F family. The staff makes decisions by committee based on what everyone here wants for their Internet home. I, the "creator" have one vote, the same as everyone else. Those decisions are based on what everyone here would like to see in their home.

Due to the timing that Triple F was created the old board saw an immdediate influx of members and activity. That activity waned some what over the coming months after TFL, thankfully, came back on to the 'net. But the enthusiasm remained and the focus shifted from guns to family by popular choice of those in the family.
The result was a decrease in the number of members and the number of post. But the camaraderie, the soul, the enthusiasm and the family remains and is what makes us unique in the 'net community.
I to, at times, wish we were more active in some areas. But I would rather we be slow in some areas in exchange for what we have that everyone here has made us to be.

[bd]

Not many places ask the members' opinions, they make the changes and you like it or lump it. Thanks for asking. :D

[Carston]

Humm, Now I am totally confused.....what did or does FFF and TFL have in common. Granted both boards moved resently both both boards are totally different.
Honestly....The Firing Line or as I refer to it TFL has totally gone down hill and is nothing more than a flame war. There are those that have no problems letting you know you own junk, you are worthless should you want to scope a rifle and give advise I wouldn't give to a wall.
If anyone has been around TFL for any lenth of time....all that are left with more than 200 posts are the Moderators and the Moderators, even thought the same names.....has changed there attitudes.

Honestly...we need THIS BOARD up and running....Just my opinion.

Carston

[Gunslinger]

I'm sorry Carston. I didn't mean to alarm you and I don't think I made myself clear. Some times we country boys have a habit of confusin' things that don't need confusin'. ;)
The point I was making was simply that when we began Triple F we had more activity and the old board gained members faster due to the fact that TFL was off the Internet at the time. I created Triple F in response to TFL closing to provide people from there a place to go. But once TFL reopened we lost some of the people we had posting on the old Triple F as they moved back to TFL. I was addressing your comments about our being some what slow now in terms of activity in relationship to how active we were when we first started. On that note if you or anyone here would like to copy and paste some threads of interest from the old board and reopen them over here feel free to. The old board is still there and there were a lot of good discussion going on there when we moved to this home.
But rest assured we will be here regardless. Triple F is a board for the members and the family here and will remain on the 'net. We aren't going any where. But we do want to ask for everyone in the families in put from time to time simply to make it the best home that it can be for everyone.
I will reserve comment on the current state of TFL.