[Gunslinger]

I think we touched on this briefly on the old board. I know we have at least a couple of retired military on board and at least one active duty. Just out of curiosity how many here have served?
I spent only three years in the Army as 95B, military police stationed in Ft. McClellan, AL., Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. and The Netherlands.
I placed this in General Discussion because I it feel that those that have served have protected our Constitutional rights, including the second, more than any other way they can. (I don't really include myself in that since I played very little army while serving. After graduating basic I never saw or touched another M-16 and can boast of never have dug a fox hole or slept in a tent after AIT. I was a lot more cop than I was a soldier ;))

[JBP]

Spent most of my military time in the south: Fort Jackson, SC; Fort Gordon, GA; Fort Eustis, VA, South Vietnam; and ended up my service at Fort Riley, KS.

[Old Soldier]

7 Active,15 Oklahoma Army National Guard, with a 18 year break from 67 to 85. Ft.Carson, Co for basic, Ft.Leonard Wood, Mo for AIT, 2 years in Germany, 5 years South Pacific,2 years South East Asia.
Inthe Guard I was a 88M,63C and a 95B. :eek: :rolleyes: :D

[merln2]

Bill,

I too, only spent three years in the Army, but they can be considered formative years. I was a 97D. Stationed at Ft Benning, GA; Ft Holabird, MD; Cam Rahn, RVN; Cho Lon, RVN; Federal Bldg, Pittsburg, PA; and mustered out at Ft Meade, MD in 1968. I retired after 20 years as a Department of the Navy civilian; the last five of which were at the Puzzle Palace on the Potomac.

Regards,

rt

[dinosaur]

3 years 4 months & 18 days in the USAF. Basic at San Antonio, Tech School in Illinois, C-130`s at Pope AFB on Ft. Bragg, F4`s at Cam Ranh Bay RVN & EC 121`s on Otis AFB. on Cape Cod with a TDY at McCoy AFB in Fla pre Disney. It`s part of Orlando Intl. now. I hated the service, too rigid so I did what any rebel would do. Joined the cops. :eek: :D

[Greg L]

Roughly 10+ years with the Ohio Army National Guard. Luckily I was able to spend 6-7 years of that as platoon leader for different platoons in our company (POL, water purification/supply, and transportation). Finally they yanked me away from the troops and stuck me on brigade staff for a couple of years until I went inactive.

Greg

[HiPower]

20 years with the Navy.
2 yrs. USS Darter SS-576 in San Diego and Mare Island
3 yrs. USS Grayback SS-574 in Subic Bay, Philippines
5 yrs. USS Salt Lake City SSN-716 in Newport News, VA and San Diego
4 yrs. USS Houston SSN-713 in Pearl Harbor and San Diego
plus a couple of shore billets. The Houston is the submarine used for filming The Hunt for Red October. I wasn't on it then, but a couple of the guys I was with were. All said Scott Glenn was a great guy, and Sean Connery was a class A jerk. :eek: :eek:

[T LEE]

U. S. ARMY, Basic at Ft. Knox, AIT Ft. Gordon. Duty as M.P. Ft. Sheridan, Il. Door gunner UH-1B S.E. Asia war games 1965-66

[Eric of Indiana]

Four years in Uncle Sam's Confused Group. (Coast Guard) I spent most of it aboard USCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10) also known as the Polar-Pig-of-a-Prison-from-Hell. :D Two trips to McMurdo Station, Antarctica, and one to Thule, Greenland.
Eric

[sensop]

66-70 USAF, Japan (Yokota AB) & Korea (Osan AB) with a couple of side trips to Phan Rang and Bien Hoa, F-4C Wild Weasel Avionics Maintenance

4 year break

74-78 USAFR, Florida (Duke Fld), AC-130A Spectre Gunship Avionics Maintenance

7 year break

85-97 USAFR, Florida (Duke Fld), AC-130A Spectre Gunship Sensor Operator (crewmember)

'Took me 33 years to get 20 good ones for retirement. 'Didn't think I'd ever get done. 'Last 12 years was the best.

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[USP45usp]

11 years, 11 months, 0 days:

Air Force

San Antonio(sp) Basic
Mississippi (Biloxi) Tech School (KAFB)
Alamogordo New Mexico (Holloman AFB)
Rome New York (Griffiss AFB)
Valdosta Georgia (Moody AFB)
Prince Sultan, Saudia (4 month TDY)
Riyad, Saudia (4 month TDY)
Tiaf, Saudia (2 month TDY; I got to move the U2's to Prince
Sultan)
Valdosta Georgia, Moody AFB

Out.

But I still believe in my Oath of Service, I carry it to this day.

USP45usp

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[Frenchy]

4 years with the Air Force, as a "273" Radar Tech.

Lackland AFB TX. (66)
Keesler AFB MS. (66-67)
Mt Laguna AFS CA. (67)
Monkey Mt.(620th. TCS) RVN (67-68)
Oklahoma City AFS OK. (68-69)
(2 months TDY. Cheyenne MT., NORAD HQ.)
Duluth AFB MN. (69-70)

[OU812]

I did 3.5 years out of a 3 year enlistment in the Army. Basic and AIT in Ft. Benning. Jump school in Benning. Air Assault School in Ft. Campbell. I was an 11B (Infantry) out of Fort Campbell, 1/327INF. My original discharge date was supposed to be, get this, in August of 1990. I kinda got extended because some moron decided that he wanted to expand his real estate in the mid-east. Got out as an E-5 about 6 months AFTER my discharge date. :mad: :eek: :cool: :confused:

[Grayfox]

U.S. Army 1972-75
63B, 63C &63F = mechanic, recovery vehicle crewman (M578 medium tank retriever)
Basic: Ft. Leonard Wood, Mo.

2 years C Battery, 2nd Battalion, 5th Air Defense Artillery, 2nd Armored Div. Ft. Hood, Tx. Chapparel Anti-Aircraft Missile Systems. (The Happy Chappy) Included a 2 month side trip for training at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, MD. (Recovery school)

1 year 23rd Ordinance Co., USAEUR (Nuclear Ordinance Supply) Heilbronn, Germany. 40 Tractor/trailer rigs with very little to do unless WW III broke out. Mostly we were the local trucking company. We'd haul anything, for anybody just to have something to do. :rolleyes:

[sensop]

Frenchy, I'm trying to remember ... Tac Control or "Scope Dope"?

[Frenchy]

: Originally posted by sensop:
<STRONG>Frenchy, I'm trying to remember ... Tac Control or "Scope Dope"?</STRONG>

SCOPE DOPE, BABY!! :D :D :D
BUIC, SAGE and Manual..

[pack_rat]

Army,
under President Reagan, :cool:
President Bush th' First :)
and king william :mad:
till my enlistment was up.

p_r
===
"Welcome to Amerika, Baby!"
-what Elian heard

[sensop]

Originally posted by Frenchy:
<STRONG>:

SCOPE DOPE, BABY!! :D :D :D
BUIC, SAGE and Manual..</STRONG>

Oh, man! You're old enough to be my daddy! :D :D Bwahaaaahahaha!!BUIC! SAGE! The old Block Buildings ... with an elevator that went waaay down! I thought they killed you guys when you retired ... :)

I was a 301xx, then a 328xx, then it started changing every year or so. Finally got a 999xx. Even it changed just before I retired.

My father (AFSC 301xx) was Maintenance Superintendent of several radio relay sites his last fifteen years in ... Great Falls (GATR), Camp Drake (67th), Fuchu (5th AF), Ton Sohnut (MAAG DCA). He also worked at a SAGE facility at Adair AFS, Oregon ... middle o' no damn where!

I used to bag groceries at the Grant Heights Commissary (near Tokyo, really Ikebukuro) with a bunch of 27xxxs. Crazy bahstids.

Hey, how many of you remember your "service number" that you had before they went to SSAN? I do ... 10125099. It's like breathing, the brain can't forget.

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[BADSBSNF81]

20+ both active and reserve.

[Eric of Indiana]

Originally posted by sensop:


Hey, how many of you remember your "service number" that you had before they went to SSAN? I do ... 10125099. It's like breathing, the brain can't forget.



And you're calling Frenchy old? :rolleyes:
Eric

[Old Soldier]

My first one was RA18557447,next one was 3538328, and the last one was my SS. :eek: :rolleyes: :D
Yes, I'm older than dirt and rocks! :D :D :D

[Frenchy]

Originally posted by Eric of Indiana:
<STRONG>


And you're calling Frenchy old? :rolleyes:
Eric</STRONG>

Not old...Just aged like a fine old "Thunderbird wine"! ;)

Hey Sensop...remember the T-2 computer's? Had tubes the size of Volkswagens!! Took up one whole floor of a blockhouse. I worked Height, ID, Surveillance Tech and Weapons Tech.
Took the BUIC system too RVN to handle the air war against Hanoi and Hyfong. We controlled the sorties from both the Air Force and Navy. We also handled the B-52 missions out of Guam. This was all under Rolling Thunder/Combat Lighting. Even spent 5 days TDY, flying "Low Orbit Gulf" in a RC-121 "Connie"! Now THAT was an experience. :D

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[DoorGunner]

4 years Air Force
18 years Army.......total service 22 years
Enlisted January 1950
Retired April 1972
2 years Korea
4 years Germany
3 years Viet Nam (Avionics Platoon Sgt. & Doorgunner (Hueys & Chinooks))
MOS 35P4H (Avionics Instructor)
Stateside locations:
Lackland AFB, Texas
Keesler AFB, Mississippi
Great Falls AFB, Montana
Fort Jackson, South Carolina
Fort Gordon, Gerogia
Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Fort Monmouth, New Jersey
Fort Rucker, Alabama
Schofield Bks., Hawaii
Sacremento Army Depot, California
Fort McClellan, Alabama
Gang plank retirement (Korea)..Fort Lewis, Washington

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[Kalvan]

Army 7 1/2 years, National Guard 1 year. (1972-81) Initially trained as 11E (Tank Crewman) but was diverted into 3d Bde, 1st AD S-1 in Bamberg, FRG. Reenlisted as 96B (Intelligence Analyst/Order of Battle Specialist). Subsequently served with 4th MI Co, 4th ID(M), Colo Spgs; 2nd AD (Fwd) in Grafenwoehr and Garlstedt, Germany; S&T Bn at Ft Hood for my last 6 mos active; and with an 8" SP How Btry in the Nat'l Gd.

[Sandman]

14 yrs 11 mos 29 days active Army.
11B1P, 64C, 88M.
Grenada, Desert Shield/Storm, Panama.
Forced out, too many in my last MOS trying to get promoted.
Currently US Navy Reserves, Seabees, Equipment Operator.
NMCB17, Ft. Carson, CO

[BadMedicine]

USP45usp:
Mississippi (Biloxi) Tech School (KAFB)

Frnchy:
(2 months TDY. Cheyenne MT., NORAD HQ.)
Doorgunner:
Gang plank retirement (Korea)..Fort Lewis, Washington

17 years as a dependent...that should count for something!! Parents and older sis were in biloxi before I was born.
Born in Clovis NM, not sure about the base there. Moved tothe airforce academy for 3-ish.(Dad worked at Norad during this time..) Moved to (the late) Chanute AFB rantoul Illinois, moved to Eielson AFB fairbanks AK, Moved to Mt Home AFB, Mt Home Idaho, then to McChord AFB Tacoma Wa (Right next to Fort Lewis :)), Then back up to Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, AK. Dad did 20 and is now retired.

[tatters]

19d Cav Scout. 1991-1995 Basic (osut) at Knox, the rest at Ft Hood. Started out with Bradleys, and went to humvees after. Reached Sgt in 1995, came home in 1995.

[John Henry]

Later part of Korea, early part of 'Nam .... North Africa, and Europe, in between. F.A.C. .... AO 16507035.

[She Who Must Be Obeyed]

Six Years Army National Guard (Ohio and Virginia). Seven Years as a Marine Wife. That definitely counts Badmedicine. In fact sometimes I think Dependents deserve Combat pay too. ;)

[airborne420]

Originally posted by dinosaur:
<STRONG>3 years 4 months & 18 days in the USAF. Basic at San Antonio, Tech School in Illinois, C-130`s at Pope AFB on Ft. Bragg</STRONG>

So your the reason that I can never get a jump cuz the birds are down!!! They're still trying to undo your doings!!! ;)


12B: Basic at Ft. Lost in the woods, Misery. AIT at Ft. Lost in the woods, Misery. Airborne school at Ft. Benning. Currently at Bragg. hoping to go to SFAS and maybe even 1st op. det. D. Right now in the mist of my 1st re-enlistment. Man the rest of you all are old! ;)

[sensop]

Frenchy: "... the T-2 computer's? Had tubes the size of Volkswagens!! Took up one whole floor of a blockhouse. I worked Height, ID, Surveillance Tech and Weapons Tech. Took the BUIC system too RVN ..." Oh, man! That is too much coming back!


DoorGunner: Keesler? Great Falls? Rucker? Korea? We HAD to have crossed paths. What time span was this?

Airborne420: "... Right now in the mist of my 1st re-enlistment. Man the rest of you all are old! ..." :) Your time will be gone before you think to pace yourself, Airborne. Use it well. This is for you ... Spectre (http://members.home.net/rifleer/ac13001.gif). Perimeter Defense is one of it's uses. I did it for my last 12 years.

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[varndog]

Uncle Sams Misguided Children 89-93. Boot camp at Parris Island. School of Infantry at Camp Geiger. Security Forces school in Great Bridge Va. Security Forces in Yorktown Va. 2nd Btn. 8th Marines at Camp Lejeune (lagoon) Am I the only Jarhead here?

[jsr5]

Well started as a 45B Small arms repair in MO nat Gaurd in Jeff City. Went to colledge in AR so changed to unit there 76Y Supply/Armorer.Went to Saudi and Iraq for a little over a year did 88M truck driver duty mostly there due to poor leadership. Came home to MO drove to AR for drills until I got out. Rejioned MO nat Gaurd in a MP unit again as Supply/Armorer. They changed to Artillery I soon got out because of job conflict at my Cop Job.

[Phil Ca]

At the tender age of 17 I joined the US Army in sort of a challenge to my dad, who called my bluff. I spent the next 10 years in the service. First went to infantry basic at Fort Ord in Jan. 1956, then on to Ordnance School in Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Md. By June I was on the way to Europe via Ft. Dix and MacGuire AFB in NJ. Arrived in Germany after brief stops in Labrador and Scotland. Took a train to Mannheim and Coleman Barracks, home of Combat Command A. I was in the 182nd Ord. Co. (Field Supply). Signed up for German language classes to avoid night work. Ended up as a translator for the unit. Got transferred to the 63rd Ord. Co. (FS) and remained with them until I went home in Decenber of 1958 via the USS Geiger out of Bremerhaven. During my tour in Europe I hitch-hiked all over the place and saw the Worlds Fair in Bruselles, Belgium. During my 30 months there I was involved in dealing with Russian officers that were driving around spying on US and also US MIB (men in black) that were spying on us also.

After a brief hiatus as a civilian I enlisted in the USAF in Philadelphia and after a weeks leave was flown to Amarillo, Tx. to Amarillo AFB. I spent 8 or 9 weeks learning the USAF version of Ordnance Supply and after a short period of waiting was assigned to Clark Field in the P.I. I spent 18 months in the 405th Fighter Wing in the Base Supply unit and playing infantry during alerts. Since I was the only one that could get the PRC-10 radio to operate during alerts I was made the instructor and RTO. I also was one of the few that knew which end of the barrel the bullets came out on the US Carbine, cal .30 M1. Did some traveling around by rented car and bus and fell in love with a young college student that was headed to the US to finish school. (We have been married 39 years as of last April)I also spent some time hiking in the mountains behind Clark. These were devastated after the Mt. Pinatubo volcano erupted some years ago. After the PI, I was sent to a SAC unit at Glasgow AFB, Montana. I was there during the October 62 Cuban missile crisis. We supported the BUFF (B52s) aircraft and F101 fighters. After my four years was over, my wife and one daughter went to Oregon, (home of record) where I tried to find gainful employment.

After being turned down by a large pine mill operation as well as a couple of other places we talked over our options. My wife was a Med Tech working at the local hospital, we were expecting another baby, and I needed a job now! Luckily, my Uncle Sam had an opening and I joined the US Army all over again. Back to Fort Ord for orientation and issuance of clothing, basic training test and rifle quals, and I was good to go. I was trying to get assigned stateside due to the expected appearance of the new baby but my Uncle had other ideas. The sargeant at formation called out,"The following men are assigned to EUSA!" I had no idea what that was and I asked another guy and he looked at me with a hang-dog look and said,"Eighth United States Army, Korea!" Well that sure put a new wrinkle in my military career. After a leave home to tell the wife and 8 month old daughter what was up, ( she was already talking in sentences by now) I took the bus to San Francisco and then to Travis and flew to Korea via Japan. I was assigned to a Hawk Missile Bn. and was up in the mountains somewhere north and east of Seoul. That was where I got a bit uptight about having to put up the UN rag alongside the US and Korean flags. I refused one day to touch the UN rag and the master sgt. in our platoon told me to fall back in, and nothing more was said about it. During our stay we captured at least one North Korean spy at our launch site, and several local thieves in our Admin Compound. I wrote a suggestion that the 45 pistols used by the interior guard s be put away and 12 gauge shotguns with bayonets be ordered for our interior guard duty. After the shotguns were deployed we never had another "slicky boy" inside our fence. My German language came in handy one day when a Korean officer marched a group of soldiers from the lacal Korean Infantry unit up to our compound to play volleyball. He did not speak Englixh and I did not speak Korean. When I could not get a Korean translator on the intercom at the gate where I was on duty, I muttered something iunder my breath in German. Instantly the Korean Lieutenant broke out in a smile and said," Also, sie sprechan deutsch, nicht war?" (So you speak German?) While in the Land of the Morning Calm, I listened to the daily broadcasts of Peking Polly. The unit CO, a captain would come to my Jamesway hooch for a daily briefing on what she was harping about. On the plane from Seoul to Travis later a young infantry corporal said that on the 38th parralell where he was stationed, his CO would fine anyone that listened to Peking Polly, fifty dollars!

After a brief leave I moved my growing family to Ft. Riley I was stationed in the 63rd Tank Bn of the First Div. After several months of working in a position that was mine but assigned to another guy, I volunteered for Viet Nam. There was another soldier from my outfit that was doing the same thing. We eventually got our wish and were sent over with the first brigade on the USS Mann. He was in the infantry and I was in a supply unit. He was killed by a sniper 33 days before rotation home. He was also the only son of a widowed mother and did not really need to be there.

We were witness to some of the first miniguns mounted on choppers, Agent Orange and B52s dropping bombs from 30 thousand feet. After the SE Asia War Games I gave up the service and became a civilian again. After several months of looking for work and getting over Viet Nam I found a job with the US Mint. I spent 27 + years there.

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[sensop]

Phil,

I was at Clark AB, RP, in the 405th TFW, the 405th A&E to be exact. Only there two months ... Oct & Nov of '67. Chuck Yeager, of Bell X-1 and breakin' the sound barrier fame, was Wing Commander. We flew B-57s. His tail number was 282.

I was also at Osan AB most of the time from Feb '68 on to Aug '70. Avionics maintenance on F-4s on "C" Diamond. Winter of '68-'69 was the coldest on record at the time since '44.

Small world.

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[Phil Ca]

Sensop, When I was at Clark I had to issue blank shotgun shells for starting purposes to an RB-57 one evening. We also recovered some U2 aircraft late in the evening. When the U2 took off a sgt from the flight line was in the back of a Ford pick-up holding the end of one of the wing tips, to keep it from touching the ground. When it took off it went nearly straight up and was out of sight really fast. This was not long after the U2 with Powers was downed over the USSR.

When I was sent to Korea I thought I was at the end of the world. After one night at Kimpo in a Repl Depot, some of us were sent to Osan AFB. I found out that the 38th AD Brigade was HQd there. Having spent 4 years in the USAF, I would have found Osan a reasonable place to be stationed. The following day after a short interview I was told I would be going to Camp Page, North and East of Seoul. The following day we were on a train again and off to Seoul. Some slicky boy tried to divest me of my duffle bag at the train station. I was carrying a personal rifle/shotgun combo in a case and I gave him a vertical butt stroke that knocked him from hell to breakfast. The last time I saw him as I was boarding the train was the railroad police picking him up off the deck.

Arriving late in the evening at Camp Page I looked at the town from the back of a 3/4 ton truck. I figured I could deal with this situation if I had to and turned in at the replacement barracks. The next day I was summoned before the Bn S4 officer, a captain, who asked me about my career in the USAF and the army before that. He wanted to know if I was able to deal with being the only Ordnance Parts Clerk in a Hawk Missile Battery up on some mountain top. I assured him that I was trained and would deal with what ever was dealt my way to the best of my ability. Since there was a Bn CMI going on he told me to lay low, hide out and in the next day or so they would send me to Site 39, way up in the boonies.

I've often wondered, the test I took the last time I enlisted asked one question several differant ways. "I usually like to hike in the mountains", and "I enjoy the mountains very much". Go figure. Anyway I survived my tour there, became a Basic Missileer and helped launch two missiles that hit their drones up in the sky at the Sea Range. I got to see Heartbreak Ridge, and warded off a bad guy in Seoul that thought I would be an easy victim. Since I had an ace in the hole in my pocket he was unable to get the best of me.

You are right, its a small world.

:cool:

[Aragon]

5 years USCG. 1991-1996 doing LE and SAR