RIA vs. Kimber


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parrottman
02-19-2007, 07:57 PM
I was able to take my new RIA 1911 to the range on Friday. Since I wear tri-focals, I shoot at 10 yards or 7 yards. I also took my Kimber Pro-Carry II. I was able to get tighter groups consistently with The RIA. Since they were closely matched, it could be 4" vs. 5 ", but I'm impressed. I'll take my Tactical Classic II next time so I'm dealing with equal barrel lengths.

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ExSniper
02-19-2007, 11:15 PM
RIA makes a good gun and is a great value. Good base if you want to do a lot of tinkering and building up your own semi-custom. Enjoy.

Fuelburns1
02-19-2007, 11:30 PM
From what I keep hearing it seems that RIA is one of the few true deals to be had in the gun world.

Skippy, RN
02-20-2007, 12:31 AM
It was a tough decision when I was trying to pick between my SIG and the RIA. But I decided to get the SIG due to practicality and its reputation, along with suggestions from other people.

I will evetually get a 1911. Maybe this summer to next year.

Rabbi
02-20-2007, 01:20 AM
RIA 1911s are some of the best pistols ever built for combat on the Earth. I will stick with that til the day I die.

THE BEST. PERIOD.

wilkerson
02-20-2007, 01:49 AM
have yet to hear a single bad word about RIA from anywhere.

parrottman
02-21-2007, 03:23 PM
I bought the RIA Officers Model yesterday. It shoots almost as good as the full size. What a deal!

Fuelburns1
04-26-2007, 09:43 PM
Are the nickel RIA's still available? I'd like to get a .45 but I'll take a .38 Super if that's all I can get.

jimfox
04-26-2007, 10:45 PM
I don't have any personal experience with RIA guns, but I have consistantly heard good things about them. I do have experience with Kimber handguns and all I've ever played with were accurate - some were very accurate.

I have had other problems with Kimbers, but they have been minor with one exception. Usually something like the extractor needing to be correctly tensioned.

ExSniper
04-26-2007, 10:47 PM
I have not seen any nickel ones but their Armscor Label has hard chrome version.

Fuelburns1
04-27-2007, 12:35 AM
A poster on one of the S&W forums has pics of his nickel RIA .38 super and Springfield .38 also in nickel. I just figure the Springfield is too hard to find now that its been discontinued.

Mr T
04-27-2007, 02:23 AM
The RIA sells really well in our shop. Not one negative so far. Evidently no break in...everyone raves about it out of the box. Armscor has come a long way. Mr T

Richard
04-27-2007, 02:25 AM
parrottman, apples and oranges? I look at RIA pistols as entry level and fixer-upper 1911s and I consider Kimbers to be a premium handgun. Yes, my Kimber Custom Compact will shoot rings around most 1911s but my RIA will hold its own with most. Be fair to both and enjoy the two of them. Regards, Richard:D

My Kimber Custom Compact:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/pe8b0233ee2322a3e2179f165e8602a80/fa742b57.jpg
My RIA:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6b10665b79c3e44e7c6aea319b234dee/e9dfe47b.jpg

gmcfixer
04-27-2007, 04:16 AM
Last time at the range I helped a fellow out that was having trouble with his RIA. He had been using some old mags from another gun that simply had weak springs. Once I showed him that it was the mags and not the gun he was quite a happy camper. I was quite impressed with what the gun could do.

Now of course every Kimber I've shot has been a solid gun too, I'm just not as big on prepackaged guns as others. That is why you will generally see me recommend building your own.

If I was going to build a new gun I would seriously look at a RIA for the starter. For now I enjoy my Colt series 70.

Dave Z

parrottman
04-29-2007, 04:54 PM
[quote=Richard]parrottman, apples and oranges? I look at RIA pistols as entry level and fixer-upper 1911s and I consider Kimbers to be a premium handgun. Yes, my Kimber Custom Compact will shoot rings around most 1911s but my RIA will hold its own with most. Be fair to both and enjoy the two of them. Regards, Richard:D

My Kimber Custom Compact:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/pe8b0233ee2322a3e2179f165e8602a80/fa742b57.jpg
My RIA:


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p6b10665b79c3e44e7c6aea319b234dee/e9dfe47b.jpg

parrottman
04-29-2007, 05:01 PM
Entry Level is relative. In the school I came out of (South side Chicago and South Vietnam) The one that was most relaiable and hit the target best was the superior weapon. I could see apples/oranges if you were putting a Sig 220 against a Kimber 1911. However, these are both the same pistol design and the better pistol wins, whether or not it's a "starter" or a $1,000 Kimber.

CoastieN70
04-30-2007, 09:00 AM
I've only half read this post the first couple of times I look at it, let's attribute that to Adult Attension Defisit disorder...

Anyways, you are comparing two 1911 pistols but with two significent differances:

1. Your RIA is 5" and your Kimber is 4". Some people shoot 5" guns better.

2. Your RIA is all steel. Your Kimber is Alumunum framed. This is significant as you were comparing the two pistols based on shot groups. A all steel pistol will usually group tighter all things being equal and assuming you are not shooting extreamly slow. Less recoil felt = tighter groups. At least that's been my experiance.

So in effect, you are comparing Apples to Oranges...

OFallon
04-30-2007, 09:07 AM
However, these are both the same pistol design and the better pistol wins, whether or not it's a "starter" or a $1,000 Kimber.

And I think the proverbial nail has been blasted thru the board. My take? Too much emphasis on Name, Pretty, and Do-Dads. After all, if I shoot you dead with an RIA at 25 yards you'll never know and can go to your maker believing is was a super, gold-plated, very expensive custom for all I care.;)

Saunders
04-30-2007, 09:39 AM
Like most things in a free enterprise system, buy what you like.

budroe
04-30-2007, 11:46 AM
Amen, and for now at least let's just be glad we have the choice!!!

I plan on comparing the RIA and the SA while I'm home next month.

parrottman
05-02-2007, 01:51 PM
Amen and Amen! Buy what you want, like and will carry confidently. I don't carry the RIA (too heavy) or the Kimber (sold it). I carry a S&W M&P Compact 40 or a Sig Revo compact C3, depending on my mood. The RIA, the Smith and the Sig are all well functioning and accurate firearms, and they spread across the price range from $379 to $899. Price means nothing; Form, Fit and Function are everything and are very subjective.

Richard
05-02-2007, 03:49 PM
"Buy what you want, like and will carry confidently." parrottman, that is why i use the Bersa Thunder 45, It does everything I need at a bargain price. I have many handguns to choose from but the Bersa works for me. Regards, Richard:D


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid104/p27c390a3876e811336e89e72b5c35532/f98c3089.jpg

Williamlayton
05-03-2007, 07:30 AM
HUMMMM.
Well, here we go again with the ol if we all fell in love with the same woman thing.
The mind of man (or women---well, especially women) I digress, is a wonder too behold. How we do it depends on culture and background (raising).
I like things that will work and last--good internals, wheather it be guns, lawnmowers or cars--I spend more than most because I don't know nuttin, can't do much and am not willing to do it myownself.
I like SIGS, STI's, and ANY gun that has been thru the hands of a smith that is worth his salt.
I admire GMC and some others because they have skills I don't have.
I want things that work when I get them--without a doubt.
This is the way I do things, have for a long time, and found it is best for me----this, of course is, MY OPINION.
Do I spend too much??? I don't know, and, that is the way I like it!!
Blessings

parrottman
05-03-2007, 11:55 AM
[quote=Richard]"Buy what you want, like and will carry confidently." parrottman, that is why i use the Bersa Thunder 45, It does everything I need at a bargain price. I have many handguns to choose from but the Bersa works for me. Regards, Richard:D



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid104/p27c390a3876e811336e89e72b5c35532/f98c3089.jpg
I've been thinking of getting one of these, thanks for the feedback. Of course I've been about a Glock 30 as well. Have you had chance to compare them?

Popeye
05-03-2007, 12:14 PM
Basically what is boils down to is you choose the features you want and then you pay for them.

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