Long Tom (???)


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Plinker
08-24-2008, 04:32 PM
Anybody know who made these ? No marking or mfg. to indicate
who it was made by or when.
Barrel and lug forged in one piece is stamped on the top of the barrel.
Gun belongs to a friend of mine and has a 36 inch barrel. Never shot it myself ,but he says it kicks like a 'mule with a bad attitude',even with low powered shells.

Thanks for any help.

OS whats ya book say..... ???

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/PlinkerXXII/100_0361.jpg?t=1219613168

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Plinker
08-24-2008, 04:34 PM
Here's a pic of full gun.


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/PlinkerXXII/100_0360.jpg?t=1219613577

Popeye
08-24-2008, 05:08 PM
I'd guess that one was made by Savage/Stevens.

CA357
08-24-2008, 05:21 PM
I'da thought that with a three foot barrel the recoil wouldn't be so bad.

Plinker
08-24-2008, 06:17 PM
I'da thought that with a three foot barrel the recoil wouldn't be so bad.

Lot of drop on the stock I suppose,plus it's not very heavy.


Popeye , I would have thought savage/stevens would have put there logo on it someplace.

Old Soldier
08-24-2008, 06:20 PM
I think it was made by Meridan Firearms.

Plinker
08-24-2008, 07:11 PM
I think it was made by Meridan Firearms.

OS do they have a web site,I did a search but didn't turn up anything.

Old Soldier
08-24-2008, 07:43 PM
Nope, that Company has been gone a long time now, Sears used to own it way back when. Sorry.

Popeye
08-24-2008, 07:49 PM
In order of date of manufacture.

Crescent made Long Tom shotguns.
Meridian made Long Tom shotguns.
Savage/Stevens made Long Tom shotguns.

bluedlightning
08-24-2008, 08:16 PM
Looks similar to the old single shot 12 gauge i have that was made be Stevens Arms and Tool company.

maxiball
08-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Sure would be a nice curio to hang on the wall.
I wouldn't want to lug it around the woods though.
A 36 inch barrel WILL shoot further than a 30 inch barrel.
By exactly six inches.

bill55
08-24-2008, 10:02 PM
Sure looks like a Stevens

Jose Grande
08-25-2008, 05:33 AM
H&R made a shotgun that looked like that. I shot turtles with it using hi-brass #4's. It would kick the soda out of a biscuit. I'd take the barrel off & look. Maybe the name is there . It still looks good,though. :up:

Plinker
08-25-2008, 09:22 PM
H&R made a shotgun that looked like that. I shot turtles with it using hi-brass #4's. It would kick the soda out of a biscuit. I'd take the barrel off & look. Maybe the name is there . It still looks good,though. :up:

"soda out of a biscuit". Bawahhahahah....... Good one. :up: :up:


Best I can find out 'Long Tom's' were sold by Sears back in the 20's and 30's. An were made by several Mfg's.

I think Popeye nailed it.

Brian45
08-26-2008, 05:28 AM
My father-in-law told me when he was a young man in Arkansas he went to a local turkey shoot. It was a big affair and all the important people were there with their fancy expensive guns.

All through the match a couple brothers from up in the hills watched dressed in old rags keeping back away from the crowd.
Right at the end they fetched one of these Long Tom shotguns from their old pickup and proceeded to win the match.

Like Maxi says they were 6 inches closer but most likely shooting that gun alot made them good.:)

Hammerdown
08-31-2008, 09:46 AM
In order of date of manufacture.

Crescent made Long Tom shotguns.
Meridian made Long Tom shotguns.
Savage/Stevens made Long Tom shotguns.

Hello
I have to go with what Member Popeye says here, Thinking it was made by Savage or Stevens who was Bought out by Savage. In 1937 Savage came out with a single shot shot gun and the model was a 220. It was of a Hammerless design and my Grandfather Ordered one through the Montgomery Ward's Catalog. He forgot to tell them what Gauge he wanted so the delivery person brought Two guns. One was a 16 Gauge 32" Full choke Barrel, and the Other was a 12 Gauge 36" Full choke barrel of which Gramp's always called his Long Tom. It was the Only Gun my Grandfather had other than a single shot .22 so he used it to hunt deer with. He killed some monster Buck's with that old single shot and handed it down to me when he Passed away. I still have it, But it sit's quietly in my Gun safe due to it's age. Later Savage made a model 94 which had a hammer and it looks almost identical to yours shown. I notice your forend piece that fits against the receiver look's identical to my Savage forend Piece. ;) The trigger Guard also appears to me made of the same white metal my Savage is, and these were Painted Black like yours shown. The receiver on yours has the same Pin Locations of my Savage, so I would say it was made by either Stevens or Savage. Here is some pictures of Gramp's Savage model 220 shotgun for comparision with the buck he killed with it in the very Late 1930's, and a close up of the receiver of it. I hope this helps, Hammerdown






http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Savage_model_220_reciever_right_ide.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Gramp_s_Buck_2.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Gramp_s_Buck_3.jpg

Nes
08-31-2008, 09:54 AM
Great Pictures. I know nothing about the guns history. All I know is I wish I had one. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

Plinker
08-31-2008, 08:04 PM
Great Pic's Hammerdown.:up:

Hammerdown
09-01-2008, 07:07 AM
Great Pic's Hammerdown.:up:

Hello Plinker
Thanks. I found one more, and every one of these were Killed with the Savage single shot above. Hammerdown



http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Gramps_Buck_1.jpg

klugj1
09-01-2008, 08:24 AM
Great pics and family story HD. I wish there was a gun to get passed down in my family. No hunting in the family until I started a couple years ago. My dad's stepdad had a 10 gauge, but I don't know what happened to it. I was 3 when he died, so no telling what happened to it.

Hammerdown
09-01-2008, 09:11 AM
Great pics and family story HD. I wish there was a gun to get passed down in my family. No hunting in the family until I started a couple years ago. My dad's stepdad had a 10 gauge, but I don't know what happened to it. I was 3 when he died, so no telling what happened to it.

Hello Klugj1
My Grandfather was a simple man, that is why he had a single shot shot gun. He felt one only needed one shot to take an animal. He also had the first single shot .22 rifle my Father had which he bought used in a hardware store used 1939 to give to my Father. It had been knocked around many years and when I asked my Father where it was as I noticed he no longer had it, he told me he had let my Niece borrow it. I went off like a Gernade when he shared that comment with me, and I told him I wanted it as he had promised it to me. Dad went and retrieved it, of which caused a silence between my niece and I, of which I could care less, as she was not promised it, only allowed to Borrow it.;) When Dad brought it back to me I was sickened. It was covered with rust including the Internal Bore.:mad: Dad said I can't see why you are so tore up over such a cheap Rifle, and I commented quickly because it was your first gun, and she had no business having it nor ruining it. :mad: I spent many hours steaming the dents out of the walnut stock and stripping several coats of old Shellac my Grandfather had applied Many years ago. It also had Two set's of sights on it. :duh: One being a Semi Buckhorn Marbles sight directly mounted on the barrel, and another peep sight with only the base remaining on the side of the reciever. I figured my Grandfather had added the peep sight, but stood to be corrected. While refinishing the rifle I started doing some research on it. The only name on it is "Ranger" and it is a model 35. I found out by cross refrencing it that the rifle was originally made by Marlin for Sears Roebuck Corperation. I also learned it came with the two set's of sights and was only made for a period of Three years as a target rifle, and I was told Marlin's model was a model 65 and a rare find, but this one made for Sears was even a rarer find. Now, that explained the two set's of sights on it, but I had no earthly idea what had happened to the rest of the peep sight as I only had the base, not the arm or cup to it. I kept a close eye on Flea-Bay in their gun sight section and after a month I found one advertised as a mystery sight and when I looked closely at the base of it, it sure looked to be exact to the one I had. No one else had bid on the sight so I got it for $6.50 shipped. It showed up and went right into place on Dad's rifle like it was the original. Much later I learned this sight was made by Lyman and is pretty pricey going for an average of $75.00 when you could find one, so I was very lucky to loacte one so reasonable. That completed the package and when I was done with refinishing it, I took it to the range and it was a Nail driver. One good thing was my Grandfather believed in using a ton of Gun Oil on his guns, so the bluing and bore cleaned back up nicely.I Put the rifle away in my safe, and awaited my Fathers arrival at our home to celebrate Christmas. After Christmas morning the following Day, I took Dad's rifle placed it in a hard case without him seeing it, and asked if he wanted to go shoot at the range ? I also had my pistol case, so I handed his first rifle to him to carry up to the shooting bench without him knowing what he had in his hand. We fired all of my S&W revolvers and when we got done I grabbed the hard case with his rifle and handed it to him, asking if he wanted to shoot this old Relic I had been working on. Dad opened the rifle case, and his eyes went wide open. He picked up his first rifle, in disbelief and looked at every inch of it. He asked how I did all this, and I explained it took a little time, but it was well worth it. He said it looked better than when it was given to him on his 7th Christmas. I was Not aware he received this gun as a Christmas Present way back in 1939 but apparently this had all fallen into Place. I asked him if he wanted to shoot it, Much like the Father did to Ralphie in the Christmas Classic The "Christmas Story", and I swear he was as Pumped up as young Ralphie was. :D He set the rifle on some sand bags and shot the center out of a target I had placed for him. When he got done with it, I noticed a weird look on the Old man who was now 72, and I asked him if he was all right ? He got emotional and said this was the best Christmas Gift I could have given him... That was a moment that will always remain in my mind and a Father & Son got to share in the passing down of a Family Heirloom....Here is Dad's First Rifle..;) Hammerdown






http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/15004DSCF5884.JPG

klugj1
09-01-2008, 10:00 AM
Very nice HD

Hammerdown
09-01-2008, 10:28 AM
Very nice HD

Hello klugj1
Thanks. These memorable times in our lives, is what make us Blue Blooded Americans, So Pro-Gun.:) "Sure, the "Liberal Gun Haters" can have mine... when they Pry my Cold Dead Fingers From Them" ...;) Hammerdown

WTM
10-02-2008, 07:34 PM
I "Johnny come lately" on this but could not resist replying. My dad hunted with a 10 ga. "rabbit-eared" Long Tom when a kid. He liked to talk about the "kick" and the smoke from the BP shells his uncle had for it. I don't know if it was not rated for modern smokeless shells or if the uncle loaded his own. WTM

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