Magizine Safetys Love em or Hate em.


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bluedlightning
10-13-2009, 09:26 PM
I own 2 pistols with magizine safetys. For those of you who are new thats a safety that prevents a pistol from being fired unless the magizine is in place. Can't do anything about the one in my S&W 422 but can remove the one in my Browning BDA 380. Should I leave it alone and learn to live with it or rip the sucker out. Your input is welcome.

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Barbwire
10-13-2009, 09:37 PM
What if you were in a fight and drew your weapon and just happened to press the mag release button? I would still like to have 1 shot. If you have a mag safety, you won't get to make that shot. Just my .02 cents

Popeye
10-13-2009, 10:15 PM
My Brownings have the magazine disconnect safety disabled.

lookingforthewayback
10-14-2009, 12:00 AM
Sure would be nice to get that one shot off if you had to.

Magnum Force
10-14-2009, 01:00 AM
i never understood the point of mag release disc safeties.

some people say "well if someone gets a cops sidearm he can hit the mag release during the struggle and disable the gun"--but what are the chances a cop is going to be able to actually do that? i think it's pretty slim.

and what if somehow the mag has been release and the officer actually needs to make use of that 1 round in the pipe to save his life?--then he's in trouble.

Fuelburns1
10-14-2009, 01:05 AM
I dislike them for the useless and unnecessary mechanism they are.

DWARREN123
10-14-2009, 03:17 AM
I do not like them nor do I have a firearm with one.

twmccloskey
10-14-2009, 10:05 AM
Every cop I know had that defect fixed! What if you get caught reloading? The drill is Rap, Tap Bang for a reason, that mag release gets hit a lot.

Tom

gmcfixer
10-14-2009, 12:31 PM
I had a 9mm Star model 28M that had a no mag safety, after 300 rounds it would start throwing the mags on the ground every other shot and yes I made sure I wasn't touching the mag release. Its called cheap spanish steel and the darn mag release wore so quickly that with the pressure of the trigger bow against the mag catch (release) it would not support the magazine and would actually pop out and piss me off. I got a full refund on it and got another wheel gun . BTW the shame of it was that was one of the most accurate 9mm pistols I've shot.

Dave Z

jimfox
10-14-2009, 01:38 PM
I took them out of my High Powers. Mostly because it is very difficult to do a decent trigger job, or to get the empty magazines to freely drop from the gun until the magazine disconnect is removed.

weaverrick
10-14-2009, 01:47 PM
I dislike them for the useless and unnecessary mechanism they are.
I can't say it any better than Fuel did!

gunfan
10-14-2009, 04:10 PM
On a "duty" pistol, they can get you killed; if removed/disconnected on a private piece, you can count on either a prosecuting (or defense) attorney to roast your carcass on a spit! I can't see altering a piece for this very reason.

Scott

Blueridge
10-14-2009, 06:39 PM
The magazine safeties that I have seen can be "overcome" to use that one bullet in the chamber if pressure is applied to the trigger before the magazine is released.

There are times when the magazine safety is useful, and I have yet to see anyone who carries for duty or self defense not have at least a second (If not also a third) magazine that could be inserted to bring the handgun back into use.

Hunt (crankshaft) Greer
10-14-2009, 07:37 PM
I have 2 WW2 Inglis ( Canadian ) HI-powers, I haave removed both disconnects
( but still have them in a drawer ). Druther NOT have them!

texasalien
10-14-2009, 07:54 PM
They are good for my gunsmith, since I don't remove them myself.

budroe
10-15-2009, 09:09 AM
The only two problems with the high power, the crappy trigger and the crappier magazine safety!!!

jimfox
10-15-2009, 11:32 AM
The only two problems with the high power, the crappy trigger and the crappier magazine safety!!!

It's been my experience that removing one helps with the other. ;)

budroe
10-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Same for me Jim.

shep854
10-16-2009, 07:49 AM
i never understood the point of mag release disc safeties.

some people say "well if someone gets a cops sidearm he can hit the mag release during the struggle and disable the gun"--but what are the chances a cop is going to be able to actually do that? i think it's pretty slim.

and what if somehow the mag has been release and the officer actually needs to make use of that 1 round in the pipe to save his life?--then he's in trouble.

Massad Ayoob has documented incidents where officers have used the mag safety to disable guns that they were losing in a scuffle.

Agreed, it's a personal choice. I have left the mag safety in my HP clone as is.

jimfox
10-16-2009, 10:27 AM
Massad Ayoob has documented incidents where officers have used the mag safety to disable guns that they were losing in a scuffle.

Agreed, it's a personal choice. I have left the mag safety in my HP clone as is.

I recall some years ago reading an article he wrote about that. I don't recall him mentioning any counter situations where having the ability to fire a shot w/o the magazine inserted saved an officer.

I take them out of my High Power because it makes achieving a decent trigger sooo much easier. I have left it in my S&W Model 39.

lookingforthewayback
10-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Not being a law officer if I am close enough to be scuffling around with the bad guy I am probably screwed already because I let him get way too close. It is nice to have the capability to get off that last shot but I don't remove them from my firearms.

Williamlayton
10-19-2009, 01:50 AM
#1--I don't care what a lawyer can do to me as long as I am alive to hear him. SA answer.
I really don't like any of the so called government/do gooder/Kali inventions.
Blessings

jimeradams
12-01-2009, 03:03 PM
I'm an armed security officer at a large hospital in Tulsa, OK. For the longest time, the only semi-autos the administration would let us carry was the 3rd generation S&W's, BECAUSE they had the magazine safety! Allegedly that was so we could drop the magazine in the middle of scuffle (as if I would be concentrating on that!) and render the gun inoperable. Now I carry a Glock 23 which doesn't have that problem, in a Safariland SSIII that I am trained to defend, and much prefer the Glock trigger system to the S&W. To each their own!

ExSniper
12-01-2009, 08:16 PM
Hate them. If you handle a semi-auto correctly they are superfluous.

twmccloskey
12-01-2009, 08:18 PM
First the fight is won by the first accurate shot fired. I have mag safeties!

Tom

Two Guns
12-09-2009, 06:53 PM
I hate mag safties.When ever I buy a Hi Power the first thing I do is remove the mag safety.

ricradster
12-09-2009, 10:51 PM
My problem with the mag disconnect in my 9mm M&P is when shooting IPSC. After unloading and showing clear, I don't like inserting a (hopefully) empty magazine at the hammer down command, then ejecting the mag to put the gun in the holster. Too many things can go wrong there.

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